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		<title>By: Per Kurowski</title>
		<link>http://baselinescenario.com/2010/03/12/the-german-finance-minister-needs-to-confront-investment-banks/#comment-46519</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Per Kurowski]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Mar 2010 12:42:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[And compound the above with the fact that, courtesy of the financial regulators, banks hold little or no capital at all against these sovereign exposures… and surprisingly few seem to find this an extraordinary way of our bank regulators betting our banks. Can you imagine how much bank-equity has to be found in order to come up with some more reasonable to the eyes leverage?
 
Bank capital-requirement on sovereign risks.

Rating AAA to AA- = Cap-Req of 0%
Rating A+ to A- = Cap-Req of 1.6%
Rating BBB+ to BBB- = Cap-Req of 4%
Rating BB+ to BB- = Cap-Req of 8%
Rating Under B- = Cap-Req of 12%
Unrated = Cap-Req of 8%

Our financial regulators went mad! Imagine if the banker gave some surely modest loans to a BB+ rated sovereign at most certainly a very interest rate spread then it was required to hold 8 percent in equity but, if it was a copious loan to an AA- sovereign on which the bank was making an extremely low spread, it is allowed to do that with zero bank equity. 

If we do not free ourselves completely from this unfortunate regulatory mindset we are doomed.

For a starter the German Finance Minister should be asking his own colleagues… how on earth did you allow our German Banks lend to Greece with no capital at all?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And compound the above with the fact that, courtesy of the financial regulators, banks hold little or no capital at all against these sovereign exposures… and surprisingly few seem to find this an extraordinary way of our bank regulators betting our banks. Can you imagine how much bank-equity has to be found in order to come up with some more reasonable to the eyes leverage?</p>
<p>Bank capital-requirement on sovereign risks.</p>
<p>Rating AAA to AA- = Cap-Req of 0%<br />
Rating A+ to A- = Cap-Req of 1.6%<br />
Rating BBB+ to BBB- = Cap-Req of 4%<br />
Rating BB+ to BB- = Cap-Req of 8%<br />
Rating Under B- = Cap-Req of 12%<br />
Unrated = Cap-Req of 8%</p>
<p>Our financial regulators went mad! Imagine if the banker gave some surely modest loans to a BB+ rated sovereign at most certainly a very interest rate spread then it was required to hold 8 percent in equity but, if it was a copious loan to an AA- sovereign on which the bank was making an extremely low spread, it is allowed to do that with zero bank equity. </p>
<p>If we do not free ourselves completely from this unfortunate regulatory mindset we are doomed.</p>
<p>For a starter the German Finance Minister should be asking his own colleagues… how on earth did you allow our German Banks lend to Greece with no capital at all?</p>
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		<title>By: egominimus</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[egominimus]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Mar 2010 11:03:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[true words my friend, true words!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>true words my friend, true words!</p>
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		<title>By: aloa5</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[aloa5]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Mar 2010 07:25:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;I am confused: When your next door neighbor can’t pay his bills, does that mean you have to pay his bills for him instead of letting him dig himself out of his own situation?&lt;/i&gt;


You don´t &quot;have to&quot;. But the question is if you loose more money yourself then it would cost to help the neighbour out.

And - one of the Banks lending Money is the Hypo Real Estate (10 bn) wich is (after a &quot;rescue&quot;) owned by the state. An who rescued the Bank? Jörg Asmussen. There will be a bad bank for the HRE but it is not known if the 10bn für Greece and the 21bn for Spain are included. 
And this is not the only Bank wich would cause (monetary and political) trouble for the gouvernment in case of not helping Greece.

ALOA]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>I am confused: When your next door neighbor can’t pay his bills, does that mean you have to pay his bills for him instead of letting him dig himself out of his own situation?</i></p>
<p>You don´t &#8220;have to&#8221;. But the question is if you loose more money yourself then it would cost to help the neighbour out.</p>
<p>And &#8211; one of the Banks lending Money is the Hypo Real Estate (10 bn) wich is (after a &#8220;rescue&#8221;) owned by the state. An who rescued the Bank? Jörg Asmussen. There will be a bad bank for the HRE but it is not known if the 10bn für Greece and the 21bn for Spain are included.<br />
And this is not the only Bank wich would cause (monetary and political) trouble for the gouvernment in case of not helping Greece.</p>
<p>ALOA</p>
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		<title>By: Rickk</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Mar 2010 21:03:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[PatR wrote:

&quot;I am confused: When your next door neighbor can’t pay his bills, does that mean you have to pay his bills for him instead of letting him dig himself out of his own situation?&quot;


March 13, 2010 - Toronto Star - excerpts

Germany seeks to oust debt-flouting EU states

Finance minister&#039;s idea rebuked as `radical step&#039;

&quot;While saying his proposals were not specifically geared to Greece, Schaeuble offered backing for an EU emergency lending mechanism that would reduce the risk of defaults. He opposed euro members appealing to the IMF.

&quot;Strict conditions and a prohibitive price tag must be attached so that aid is only drawn in the case of emergencies that present a threat to the financial stability of the whole euro area,&quot; Schaeuble wrote.

Countries that repeatedly breach the deficit limit of 3 per cent of gross domestic product should be denied EU &quot;cohesion funds&quot; for economic development and barred from voting on euro-region policies, Schaeuble said.&quot;

http://tinyurl.com/y9u2oe3]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PatR wrote:</p>
<p>&#8220;I am confused: When your next door neighbor can’t pay his bills, does that mean you have to pay his bills for him instead of letting him dig himself out of his own situation?&#8221;</p>
<p>March 13, 2010 &#8211; Toronto Star &#8211; excerpts</p>
<p>Germany seeks to oust debt-flouting EU states</p>
<p>Finance minister&#8217;s idea rebuked as `radical step&#8217;</p>
<p>&#8220;While saying his proposals were not specifically geared to Greece, Schaeuble offered backing for an EU emergency lending mechanism that would reduce the risk of defaults. He opposed euro members appealing to the IMF.</p>
<p>&#8220;Strict conditions and a prohibitive price tag must be attached so that aid is only drawn in the case of emergencies that present a threat to the financial stability of the whole euro area,&#8221; Schaeuble wrote.</p>
<p>Countries that repeatedly breach the deficit limit of 3 per cent of gross domestic product should be denied EU &#8220;cohesion funds&#8221; for economic development and barred from voting on euro-region policies, Schaeuble said.&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://tinyurl.com/y9u2oe3" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/y9u2oe3</a></p>
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		<title>By: JCH</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[JCH]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Mar 2010 20:26:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What investment bank broke a rule?  Or, are we now backdating rules?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What investment bank broke a rule?  Or, are we now backdating rules?</p>
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		<title>By: Per Kurowski</title>
		<link>http://baselinescenario.com/2010/03/12/the-german-finance-minister-needs-to-confront-investment-banks/#comment-46470</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Per Kurowski]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Mar 2010 17:05:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I was astonished by the article, not because it was not right, but because I have rarely lately read something sounding so very German. “Achtung! Some very strict Euro condizionalities seem on their way!

If we did not have a crisis before we most definitely must have one now as the room for middle-of the road adjustments seems to have disappeared. The Euro will either shoot up like a DM, or dissolve like an Argentinean peso. What will the markets believe?

Whatever, if I was a Greek living in Greece I would probably start packing!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was astonished by the article, not because it was not right, but because I have rarely lately read something sounding so very German. “Achtung! Some very strict Euro condizionalities seem on their way!</p>
<p>If we did not have a crisis before we most definitely must have one now as the room for middle-of the road adjustments seems to have disappeared. The Euro will either shoot up like a DM, or dissolve like an Argentinean peso. What will the markets believe?</p>
<p>Whatever, if I was a Greek living in Greece I would probably start packing!</p>
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		<title>By: Rickk</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rickk]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Mar 2010 15:52:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Nassim Taleb wrote on Twitter 7:13 AM Mar 9th via web

&quot;The differences between Goldman Sachs &amp; the mafia: GS has a better legal-regulatory expertise; but the mafia understands public opinion.&quot;

http://twitter.com/nntaleb/]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nassim Taleb wrote on Twitter 7:13 AM Mar 9th via web</p>
<p>&#8220;The differences between Goldman Sachs &amp; the mafia: GS has a better legal-regulatory expertise; but the mafia understands public opinion.&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://twitter.com/nntaleb/" rel="nofollow">http://twitter.com/nntaleb/</a></p>
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		<title>By: PatR</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[PatR]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Mar 2010 15:15:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am confused:  When your next door neighbor can&#039;t pay his bills, does that mean you have to pay his bills for him instead of letting him dig himself out of his own situation?  Will it help if he switches to his own currency, &quot;Neighbor Bucks&quot;, or is that just trying to avoid dealing with the underlying problems?

All these assumptions that just because the Germans share their currency with the Greeks means that they must pay the Greeks&#039; bills strikes me as nonsense.  Certain institutions in charge of economic management may be very embarrassed by the naked unfolding of a sovereign default, but it must be allowed to happen when the sovereign nation doesn&#039;t pay its bills.

If that results in losses for German banks and bankers who loaned large proportions of their capital carelessly to Greek debtors, then that is the right outcome.  In the future, German bankers will be more careful.  If you don&#039;t accept this outcome, then you are simply saying that sovereign lending should be unmanaged and unlimited.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am confused:  When your next door neighbor can&#8217;t pay his bills, does that mean you have to pay his bills for him instead of letting him dig himself out of his own situation?  Will it help if he switches to his own currency, &#8220;Neighbor Bucks&#8221;, or is that just trying to avoid dealing with the underlying problems?</p>
<p>All these assumptions that just because the Germans share their currency with the Greeks means that they must pay the Greeks&#8217; bills strikes me as nonsense.  Certain institutions in charge of economic management may be very embarrassed by the naked unfolding of a sovereign default, but it must be allowed to happen when the sovereign nation doesn&#8217;t pay its bills.</p>
<p>If that results in losses for German banks and bankers who loaned large proportions of their capital carelessly to Greek debtors, then that is the right outcome.  In the future, German bankers will be more careful.  If you don&#8217;t accept this outcome, then you are simply saying that sovereign lending should be unmanaged and unlimited.</p>
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		<title>By: aloa5</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[aloa5]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Mar 2010 13:56:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There is no way &quot;confronting the investment banks&quot; with Schäuble. The &quot;man at work&quot; here is imho Jörg Asmussen wich I think is not likely to do so.

Regards
ALOA]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is no way &#8220;confronting the investment banks&#8221; with Schäuble. The &#8220;man at work&#8221; here is imho Jörg Asmussen wich I think is not likely to do so.</p>
<p>Regards<br />
ALOA</p>
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		<title>By: John C. Médaille</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John C. Médaille]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Mar 2010 13:38:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[True, but do you think they are not going to default? A bailout kicks the can down the road, but doesn&#039;t solve the problem.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>True, but do you think they are not going to default? A bailout kicks the can down the road, but doesn&#8217;t solve the problem.</p>
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		<title>By: Alan McConnell</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Alan McConnell]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Mar 2010 13:34:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Gracious!  How is Greece going to be &quot;thrown out&quot; of
the Euro system?   Will all passengers on all flights,
trains, boats to Greece be searched and Euros
confiscated.  Will Greece be invaded and all Euros
taken from the populace?  will whatever printing/
coining facilities exist in Greece be bombed?

I suppose it is thinkable that a country now presently
on the Euro could reinstate some kind of original
currency and hope that Gresham&#039;s law would work in
its favor(e.g. that the new home currency is _worse_
than the Euro!!!!)

Also, while I&#039;m still seized by a fit of practicality,
why would taking Greece off the Euro -- even supposing
it to be possible -- help the problems of Greek
indebtedness?

Best wishes to all,

Alan McConnell in Silver Spring MD]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gracious!  How is Greece going to be &#8220;thrown out&#8221; of<br />
the Euro system?   Will all passengers on all flights,<br />
trains, boats to Greece be searched and Euros<br />
confiscated.  Will Greece be invaded and all Euros<br />
taken from the populace?  will whatever printing/<br />
coining facilities exist in Greece be bombed?</p>
<p>I suppose it is thinkable that a country now presently<br />
on the Euro could reinstate some kind of original<br />
currency and hope that Gresham&#8217;s law would work in<br />
its favor(e.g. that the new home currency is _worse_<br />
than the Euro!!!!)</p>
<p>Also, while I&#8217;m still seized by a fit of practicality,<br />
why would taking Greece off the Euro &#8212; even supposing<br />
it to be possible &#8212; help the problems of Greek<br />
indebtedness?</p>
<p>Best wishes to all,</p>
<p>Alan McConnell in Silver Spring MD</p>
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		<title>By: egominumus</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[egominumus]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Mar 2010 09:50:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If this story was coming out of an Asian finance minister, I would give it some respect, but for European officials to be frustrated by the actions of big global financial players, when Frankfurt, London and Paris based organizations have been vying with NY at the heart and soul of the game.

Remember the Asian financial crises, Ruble crises, LTCM etc. all these events featured all the usual suspects from those four centers of global finance. And, wasn&#039;t the whole CDO game at AIG built around regulatory arbitrage for the European banks who are behemoths of global finance....but now that Greece and the Euro is on the menu...HOUSTON WE&#039;VE GOT A PROBLEM!!!!  give me a break...   

I think Observer hit it on the head]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If this story was coming out of an Asian finance minister, I would give it some respect, but for European officials to be frustrated by the actions of big global financial players, when Frankfurt, London and Paris based organizations have been vying with NY at the heart and soul of the game.</p>
<p>Remember the Asian financial crises, Ruble crises, LTCM etc. all these events featured all the usual suspects from those four centers of global finance. And, wasn&#8217;t the whole CDO game at AIG built around regulatory arbitrage for the European banks who are behemoths of global finance&#8230;.but now that Greece and the Euro is on the menu&#8230;HOUSTON WE&#8217;VE GOT A PROBLEM!!!!  give me a break&#8230;   </p>
<p>I think Observer hit it on the head</p>
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		<title>By: egominumus</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[egominumus]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Mar 2010 09:41:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mr. M, there are two sides to the riddle, and since debts are in euro&#039;s, the de-euronization of one side of this ledger will simply result in massive increases in interest payments, leading to a debt default. The key question for Greece will become how to finance it&#039;s huge and ever growing deficits.... there are no easy answers..thats why you aren&#039;t hearing any.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. M, there are two sides to the riddle, and since debts are in euro&#8217;s, the de-euronization of one side of this ledger will simply result in massive increases in interest payments, leading to a debt default. The key question for Greece will become how to finance it&#8217;s huge and ever growing deficits&#8230;. there are no easy answers..thats why you aren&#8217;t hearing any.</p>
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		<title>By: Valerie Curl</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Valerie Curl]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Mar 2010 06:30:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;...perhaps Mr. Schauble should consider referring the broader investment banking market (including over-the-counter derivatives) to the relevant anti-monopoly authorities within the European Commission.&quot;

Do you think that would work? Would doing so change the business practices of huge banking firms like Goldman Sachs?  And how would Germany and the rest of the Eurozone get the U.S. on board?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;&#8230;perhaps Mr. Schauble should consider referring the broader investment banking market (including over-the-counter derivatives) to the relevant anti-monopoly authorities within the European Commission.&#8221;</p>
<p>Do you think that would work? Would doing so change the business practices of huge banking firms like Goldman Sachs?  And how would Germany and the rest of the Eurozone get the U.S. on board?</p>
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		<title>By: BRUCE E. WOYCH</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[BRUCE E. WOYCH]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Mar 2010 02:57:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Simon: This is great information and perhaps a model for the types of new questions and directives that need to be raised and pushed forward.  The media &quot;acceptable market rhetoric&quot; is not only stale byt mis directed.  The deeper questions are not even being raised.  Perhaps it takes the direct approach of the Germans to break the ice, but I am sure glad your leading it into our mainstream!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Simon: This is great information and perhaps a model for the types of new questions and directives that need to be raised and pushed forward.  The media &#8220;acceptable market rhetoric&#8221; is not only stale byt mis directed.  The deeper questions are not even being raised.  Perhaps it takes the direct approach of the Germans to break the ice, but I am sure glad your leading it into our mainstream!</p>
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