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		<title>By: monday1929</title>
		<link>http://baselinescenario.com/2009/12/17/paul-volcker-picks-up-a-bat/#comment-36465</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Dec 2009 02:41:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[JPM has 90 Trillion in notional derivatives. This is larger than the entire worlds GDP. Trillions more in hidden losses have yet to be revealed.
Obama will fire the &quot;Failed Men&quot;- Rubin, Summers and Geithner when the S&amp;P Crashes through 500.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JPM has 90 Trillion in notional derivatives. This is larger than the entire worlds GDP. Trillions more in hidden losses have yet to be revealed.<br />
Obama will fire the &#8220;Failed Men&#8221;- Rubin, Summers and Geithner when the S&amp;P Crashes through 500.</p>
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		<title>By: George</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Dec 2009 14:01:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I was being rather pessimistic.  But if suffering drives political change, Africa would look rather different... these things can work both ways.  Either way Volcker&#039;s interview is fantastic.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was being rather pessimistic.  But if suffering drives political change, Africa would look rather different&#8230; these things can work both ways.  Either way Volcker&#8217;s interview is fantastic.</p>
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		<title>By: Clotpoll</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Dec 2009 13:08:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is all easy to understand.  We live in a fascist state, and policy is dictated by banks, insurance and pharma.

Nothing will work, short of complete overthrow of the gubmint or (if we&#039;re lucky) a complete systemic collapse, brought about by the idiotic policies now being pursued.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is all easy to understand.  We live in a fascist state, and policy is dictated by banks, insurance and pharma.</p>
<p>Nothing will work, short of complete overthrow of the gubmint or (if we&#8217;re lucky) a complete systemic collapse, brought about by the idiotic policies now being pursued.</p>
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		<title>By: TonyForesta</title>
		<link>http://baselinescenario.com/2009/12/17/paul-volcker-picks-up-a-bat/#comment-36361</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Dec 2009 11:22:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Intriguing post Butters, but I&#039;m with Philip H.  Someone, somewhere must muster the courage to come forward with some hard evidence that will unmask these PONZI scheme&#039;s.  How is it possible that a regulator cannot &quot;get an accurate sense of risks one of these institutions face.&quot;; - or how is it possible that &quot;the people who run these firms can’t even get accurate assessments because they are simply too complex&quot;, - but yet these same people manage somehow to get an &quot;accurate assessment&quot; of profit from these unknown unknown products and services.  Something is rotten.    Either the accounting is insufficient, (and how is that possible?) - or the models, and the products and services are intentionally maliciously obtuse, and/or deceptive, - and then how is that not ILLEGAL!!!???

Crimes are involved, either of ommision - or intentional deception.  Any product, or service that is too complex to comprehend - should and must automatically be relegated to the realms of thievery and/or illusion.  Numbers are funny things, easily manipulated, and if polluted, rendered useless by one false calculation.  

The besmirching of Volker reaks of the wingnut redneck Amerika message-force multiplying of fictions and myths as truths, and sliming any and every opponent as anti-Amerikan, givingaidandcomforttotheenemy, spawnofthedevil.  

Volker, warts and all is dead on in his poignant criticism of the finance oligarchs, and the necessity of dismantling the socalled TBTF malignancies.  

Until society is rid of these malignant bloodsucking squidlike cancers, there will be more pain and suffering, and atrophy, and eventually death.   In the end, after all the feeble medicines and remedies are haphazzardly applied, - the cancer wins and destroys the host.  These evils must be excoriated completely and permantently. 

TBTF, and tocomplextocomprehend institutions and models are malignancies sucking the blood and life out of vibrant societies in order to feed the predatorclass alone and exclusively.

These evil monsters must be defeated, dismantled, and destroyed, so that future generations will never again be forced to confront and surmount blatant evil, ruthless toxicity, and pervasive malignancy. 

Welcome to Amerika!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Intriguing post Butters, but I&#8217;m with Philip H.  Someone, somewhere must muster the courage to come forward with some hard evidence that will unmask these PONZI scheme&#8217;s.  How is it possible that a regulator cannot &#8220;get an accurate sense of risks one of these institutions face.&#8221;; &#8211; or how is it possible that &#8220;the people who run these firms can’t even get accurate assessments because they are simply too complex&#8221;, &#8211; but yet these same people manage somehow to get an &#8220;accurate assessment&#8221; of profit from these unknown unknown products and services.  Something is rotten.    Either the accounting is insufficient, (and how is that possible?) &#8211; or the models, and the products and services are intentionally maliciously obtuse, and/or deceptive, &#8211; and then how is that not ILLEGAL!!!???</p>
<p>Crimes are involved, either of ommision &#8211; or intentional deception.  Any product, or service that is too complex to comprehend &#8211; should and must automatically be relegated to the realms of thievery and/or illusion.  Numbers are funny things, easily manipulated, and if polluted, rendered useless by one false calculation.  </p>
<p>The besmirching of Volker reaks of the wingnut redneck Amerika message-force multiplying of fictions and myths as truths, and sliming any and every opponent as anti-Amerikan, givingaidandcomforttotheenemy, spawnofthedevil.  </p>
<p>Volker, warts and all is dead on in his poignant criticism of the finance oligarchs, and the necessity of dismantling the socalled TBTF malignancies.  </p>
<p>Until society is rid of these malignant bloodsucking squidlike cancers, there will be more pain and suffering, and atrophy, and eventually death.   In the end, after all the feeble medicines and remedies are haphazzardly applied, &#8211; the cancer wins and destroys the host.  These evils must be excoriated completely and permantently. </p>
<p>TBTF, and tocomplextocomprehend institutions and models are malignancies sucking the blood and life out of vibrant societies in order to feed the predatorclass alone and exclusively.</p>
<p>These evil monsters must be defeated, dismantled, and destroyed, so that future generations will never again be forced to confront and surmount blatant evil, ruthless toxicity, and pervasive malignancy. </p>
<p>Welcome to Amerika!</p>
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		<title>By: whess</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 23:28:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree with the comment about financial innovation.  The small business on main street wants to make products and services that people need and want. Financial innovation is about picking up the shavings as the money twirls around.  Greenspan would lean into the mike at a congressional hearing whispering sweet nothings about financial innovation.  We were seduced.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with the comment about financial innovation.  The small business on main street wants to make products and services that people need and want. Financial innovation is about picking up the shavings as the money twirls around.  Greenspan would lean into the mike at a congressional hearing whispering sweet nothings about financial innovation.  We were seduced.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Coffman</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jim Coffman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 22:40:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Volker&#039;s voice on this issue is extremely important.  Of course we need to break up the banking/investment banking system.  Many of us have been advocating that for some time.  And now McCain has stepped in to push legislation that Democrats should have initiated.

But that is just a start.  Unless we get the casino mentality under control, our capital markets may never again be the engine for industrial and economic growth.  Is it a coincidence that the proliferation of financial products that enable and encourage betting--as distinguished from investing--accompanied the near collapse of our economic system?  Finance for the sake of finance is a recipe for disaster and the more folks who say it the better.

If this administration doesn&#039;t wake up to this reality, we will be paying taxes to tea-partiers in a couple of years and finance will be triumphant.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Volker&#8217;s voice on this issue is extremely important.  Of course we need to break up the banking/investment banking system.  Many of us have been advocating that for some time.  And now McCain has stepped in to push legislation that Democrats should have initiated.</p>
<p>But that is just a start.  Unless we get the casino mentality under control, our capital markets may never again be the engine for industrial and economic growth.  Is it a coincidence that the proliferation of financial products that enable and encourage betting&#8211;as distinguished from investing&#8211;accompanied the near collapse of our economic system?  Finance for the sake of finance is a recipe for disaster and the more folks who say it the better.</p>
<p>If this administration doesn&#8217;t wake up to this reality, we will be paying taxes to tea-partiers in a couple of years and finance will be triumphant.</p>
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		<title>By: anti_fascist_freedom_fighter</title>
		<link>http://baselinescenario.com/2009/12/17/paul-volcker-picks-up-a-bat/#comment-36303</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[anti_fascist_freedom_fighter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 19:09:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Oh. I forgot to mention I owe the IRS $10,000 in past taxes, the state $2500 in past taxes, the hospital $3500 in bills which health insurance didn&#039;t cover... and from what I understand... I GOT IT EASY!!!  Happy Holidays, y&#039;all.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh. I forgot to mention I owe the IRS $10,000 in past taxes, the state $2500 in past taxes, the hospital $3500 in bills which health insurance didn&#8217;t cover&#8230; and from what I understand&#8230; I GOT IT EASY!!!  Happy Holidays, y&#8217;all.</p>
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		<title>By: anti_fascist_freedom_fighter</title>
		<link>http://baselinescenario.com/2009/12/17/paul-volcker-picks-up-a-bat/#comment-36302</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[anti_fascist_freedom_fighter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 19:06:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Jerry points out the real issue - the whole point of multinational corporations fleeing to a globalization model is to do exactly what monarchs, elites, and aristocrats have always striven for- to erase the capacity of nationalistic ideals (i.e., &quot;We the People&quot;) from interfering with their amassing of wealth and their unbridled exercise of economic power.

And since more than 50% of the top economies of the world are now Corporations (not Nations), the multinational corporations have us (the &quot;We the People&quot; citizens of nations) by the short and curlies.  The US cannot regulate these Multinational giants any more than the US can regulate Iran, the multinationals just set up shop in a tax-free enclave such as Dubai, or Luxembourg or the Maldives.  I  fact, as a Nation, we should declare war on these huge multinational corporations, but, surprise, surprise, if you read any of the defense initiatives coming out of the Pentagon, you will quickly learn that our armed forces have been captured as well, since their mission is to defend our &quot;economic interests at home and abroad.&quot;  

Oh, woe is us!  We took a ride on the fascist alligator, and ended up inside.  We are all just serfs now, living in a feudalistic corporate fascist police state.  At least in feudalism you got to keep a little bit of food to feed your family.  I made $45,000 last year and every penny gets spent on health insurance, rent for my office and my crappy apartment, for gas, for car repairs...  I can&#039;t afford to buy even flowers for my Mom for Christmas.  I&#039;m behind on my rent, behind on my electricity bill, my phone&#039;s been shut off... Gotta go - I have to make some money to pay my 29.99% interest Chase credit card.  God Bless America!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jerry points out the real issue &#8211; the whole point of multinational corporations fleeing to a globalization model is to do exactly what monarchs, elites, and aristocrats have always striven for- to erase the capacity of nationalistic ideals (i.e., &#8220;We the People&#8221;) from interfering with their amassing of wealth and their unbridled exercise of economic power.</p>
<p>And since more than 50% of the top economies of the world are now Corporations (not Nations), the multinational corporations have us (the &#8220;We the People&#8221; citizens of nations) by the short and curlies.  The US cannot regulate these Multinational giants any more than the US can regulate Iran, the multinationals just set up shop in a tax-free enclave such as Dubai, or Luxembourg or the Maldives.  I  fact, as a Nation, we should declare war on these huge multinational corporations, but, surprise, surprise, if you read any of the defense initiatives coming out of the Pentagon, you will quickly learn that our armed forces have been captured as well, since their mission is to defend our &#8220;economic interests at home and abroad.&#8221;  </p>
<p>Oh, woe is us!  We took a ride on the fascist alligator, and ended up inside.  We are all just serfs now, living in a feudalistic corporate fascist police state.  At least in feudalism you got to keep a little bit of food to feed your family.  I made $45,000 last year and every penny gets spent on health insurance, rent for my office and my crappy apartment, for gas, for car repairs&#8230;  I can&#8217;t afford to buy even flowers for my Mom for Christmas.  I&#8217;m behind on my rent, behind on my electricity bill, my phone&#8217;s been shut off&#8230; Gotta go &#8211; I have to make some money to pay my 29.99% interest Chase credit card.  God Bless America!</p>
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		<title>By: apachecadillac</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 16:37:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I would take the long position against your short.

If the financial crisis is past but the economy is in the doldrums, the politics of the situation will be the driver.  And increasingly, the politics will require that the financial services sector be positioned as renegades who&#039;ve sold their country down the river and require corralling and punishment rather than as partners in regulatory reform.  All the lobbyists and all the political contributions and all the career path strategies in the world won&#039;t change that.

Volcker has always been the Administration&#039;s Plan B.  Not a relief pitcher to spell the starters in the late innings, but the replacement to the inherited approach when it either failed economically or became politically untenable.  Perhaps there was no alternative to working with the established system at the outset. But the price of being seen toadying to Wall Street is getting too high.

My holiday forecast--the shifts in Washington this winter will be interesting, but opaque.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would take the long position against your short.</p>
<p>If the financial crisis is past but the economy is in the doldrums, the politics of the situation will be the driver.  And increasingly, the politics will require that the financial services sector be positioned as renegades who&#8217;ve sold their country down the river and require corralling and punishment rather than as partners in regulatory reform.  All the lobbyists and all the political contributions and all the career path strategies in the world won&#8217;t change that.</p>
<p>Volcker has always been the Administration&#8217;s Plan B.  Not a relief pitcher to spell the starters in the late innings, but the replacement to the inherited approach when it either failed economically or became politically untenable.  Perhaps there was no alternative to working with the established system at the outset. But the price of being seen toadying to Wall Street is getting too high.</p>
<p>My holiday forecast&#8211;the shifts in Washington this winter will be interesting, but opaque.</p>
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		<title>By: tippygolden</title>
		<link>http://baselinescenario.com/2009/12/17/paul-volcker-picks-up-a-bat/#comment-36283</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[tippygolden]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 16:07:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Jerry J, you are on my list of favourite frequent commentators at Baseline. And yes ... there are others :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jerry J, you are on my list of favourite frequent commentators at Baseline. And yes &#8230; there are others :)</p>
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		<title>By: Charles R. Williams</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Charles R. Williams]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 15:17:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Repealing Glass-Steagall is a no-brainer since it makes banks smaller, simplifies regulation and is costless. It is not an essential element of reform nor is it sufficient but it is certainly helpful. What is essential is to ensure that investors, rather than counter-parties, depositors and taxpayers, take the hit when financial institutions fail and that problems can be resolved quickly.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Repealing Glass-Steagall is a no-brainer since it makes banks smaller, simplifies regulation and is costless. It is not an essential element of reform nor is it sufficient but it is certainly helpful. What is essential is to ensure that investors, rather than counter-parties, depositors and taxpayers, take the hit when financial institutions fail and that problems can be resolved quickly.</p>
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		<title>By: Evan Kramer</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Evan Kramer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 11:44:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Big Banks...it is all the same.  I wish they would invest more online as they have great digital assets.  Per Evan Kramer&#039;s most recent white paper on the &quot;New Corporate Digital Leadership&quot;, these large companies have missed a big opportunity without a Chief Internet Officer.  http://tinyurl.com/yeez84y]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Big Banks&#8230;it is all the same.  I wish they would invest more online as they have great digital assets.  Per Evan Kramer&#8217;s most recent white paper on the &#8220;New Corporate Digital Leadership&#8221;, these large companies have missed a big opportunity without a Chief Internet Officer.  <a href="http://tinyurl.com/yeez84y" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/yeez84y</a></p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mark]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 10:12:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;our biggest banks are making good money – mostly from trading,&quot;

Given that trading is zero sum, who are they trading against?  At who&#039;s expense are their profits being derived?

Guess what... it&#039;s you and me, and our pension funds, and 401Ks.  Anybody without inside market information, and the ability to manipulate the market.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;our biggest banks are making good money – mostly from trading,&#8221;</p>
<p>Given that trading is zero sum, who are they trading against?  At who&#8217;s expense are their profits being derived?</p>
<p>Guess what&#8230; it&#8217;s you and me, and our pension funds, and 401Ks.  Anybody without inside market information, and the ability to manipulate the market.</p>
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		<title>By: tippygolden</title>
		<link>http://baselinescenario.com/2009/12/17/paul-volcker-picks-up-a-bat/#comment-36274</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[tippygolden]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 08:16:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I was surfing the net and came across a video in which (paraphrasing from memory) SJ says, &#039;the Constitution needs to be amended to rein in the influence of lobbyists on government. This is entirely possible. There is precedent. For example, the Supreme Court decided income taxes were illegal so the Constitution was amended.&#039;  

I found his clarity quite shocking.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was surfing the net and came across a video in which (paraphrasing from memory) SJ says, &#8216;the Constitution needs to be amended to rein in the influence of lobbyists on government. This is entirely possible. There is precedent. For example, the Supreme Court decided income taxes were illegal so the Constitution was amended.&#8217;  </p>
<p>I found his clarity quite shocking.</p>
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		<title>By: DH</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[DH]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 06:12:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[yes, resurrecting.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yes, resurrecting.</p>
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