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		<title>By: 1 Kings</title>
		<link>http://baselinescenario.com/2009/12/01/feudal-lords-of-finance/#comment-35262</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[1 Kings]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Dec 2009 20:47:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yeah, the years 500-1000 A.D. were great for innovation...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, the years 500-1000 A.D. were great for innovation&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Redleg</title>
		<link>http://baselinescenario.com/2009/12/01/feudal-lords-of-finance/#comment-35207</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Dec 2009 03:12:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Horsehockey.  Communism doesn&#039;t work and everyone knows it.  That and the US gov&#039;t (including the oligarchs) do not have the means to control an armed and angry population.  However, I&#039;d take socialism in a minute if the sole alternative was a fascist dictatorship.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Horsehockey.  Communism doesn&#8217;t work and everyone knows it.  That and the US gov&#8217;t (including the oligarchs) do not have the means to control an armed and angry population.  However, I&#8217;d take socialism in a minute if the sole alternative was a fascist dictatorship.</p>
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		<title>By: Redleg</title>
		<link>http://baselinescenario.com/2009/12/01/feudal-lords-of-finance/#comment-35205</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Dec 2009 03:08:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Would the recently armed crooks at GS open fire on the crowd?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Would the recently armed crooks at GS open fire on the crowd?</p>
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		<title>By: Redleg</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Dec 2009 03:06:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Last year&#039;s election doesn&#039;t seem to have changed anything.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Last year&#8217;s election doesn&#8217;t seem to have changed anything.</p>
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		<title>By: Redleg</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Dec 2009 03:01:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This one has, and is waiting for events to unfold...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This one has, and is waiting for events to unfold&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Redleg</title>
		<link>http://baselinescenario.com/2009/12/01/feudal-lords-of-finance/#comment-35200</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Dec 2009 02:51:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Exactly PA.  Thee are people in the US that advocate for Christian totalitarianism - Fascism for Jesus.  This is what I fear could happen here should a worst case scenario occur.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Exactly PA.  Thee are people in the US that advocate for Christian totalitarianism &#8211; Fascism for Jesus.  This is what I fear could happen here should a worst case scenario occur.</p>
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		<title>By: Per Kurowski</title>
		<link>http://baselinescenario.com/2009/12/01/feudal-lords-of-finance/#comment-35133</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Per Kurowski]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 14:28:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[And so now Baseline has been reduced to a simple class-war instigator?

Well in that case let me then argue instead that all rabble about bankers, oligarchs and Feudal Lords of Finance is just a manoeuvre to distract us with while they infiltrate communism through the door of financial regulations. 

1. The Committee of European Banking Supervisors aim to raise the quantity and quality of liquidity buffers by forcing banks to hold significant amounts of “high quality” government bonds”. 

2. The current Basel regulation permits banks to lend to the government with a zero percent capital requirement, compared to 8 percent when lending to an ordinary citizen.

Are these neo-central-planners building a new wall? With the governments and their special triple-A rated comrades on one side of it and all the rest of us the Pöbel on the other?

http://www.theaaa-bomb.blogspot.com/]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And so now Baseline has been reduced to a simple class-war instigator?</p>
<p>Well in that case let me then argue instead that all rabble about bankers, oligarchs and Feudal Lords of Finance is just a manoeuvre to distract us with while they infiltrate communism through the door of financial regulations. </p>
<p>1. The Committee of European Banking Supervisors aim to raise the quantity and quality of liquidity buffers by forcing banks to hold significant amounts of “high quality” government bonds”. </p>
<p>2. The current Basel regulation permits banks to lend to the government with a zero percent capital requirement, compared to 8 percent when lending to an ordinary citizen.</p>
<p>Are these neo-central-planners building a new wall? With the governments and their special triple-A rated comrades on one side of it and all the rest of us the Pöbel on the other?</p>
<p><a href="http://www.theaaa-bomb.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.theaaa-bomb.blogspot.com/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Logic</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 03:26:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The ancient Greek pagan writer Plutarch observed (and historians have repeatedly validated) that societies grow increasingly unstable as the wealth gap widens. 

If the present is any indication (90 to 95% of the nation&#039;s assets reside with the top 1%) then we may be approaching a tipping point where the proverbial &quot;peasants with pitchforks&quot; (or &quot;with guns&quot; as today&#039;s proxy for pitchforks) may rise up. 

Let us hope that cooler heads prevail and the mega wealthy can see past their greed and grasp the historical lessons staring them in their faces.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The ancient Greek pagan writer Plutarch observed (and historians have repeatedly validated) that societies grow increasingly unstable as the wealth gap widens. </p>
<p>If the present is any indication (90 to 95% of the nation&#8217;s assets reside with the top 1%) then we may be approaching a tipping point where the proverbial &#8220;peasants with pitchforks&#8221; (or &#8220;with guns&#8221; as today&#8217;s proxy for pitchforks) may rise up. </p>
<p>Let us hope that cooler heads prevail and the mega wealthy can see past their greed and grasp the historical lessons staring them in their faces.</p>
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		<title>By: Min</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2009 18:46:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Didn&#039;t the New Deal have a lot to do with the reduction in inequality?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Didn&#8217;t the New Deal have a lot to do with the reduction in inequality?</p>
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		<title>By: Min</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Min]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2009 18:43:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;For all its problems, I think globalization will be pretty harsh on any country (us right now) that allows too much concentration of wealth.&quot;

Geez, robby, where do you think the concentration of wealth comes from? Doesn&#039;t globalization have a lot to do with it? Globalization weakens the control of governments over their own economies and makes smaller governments pawns of multinationals. The East India Company was a multinational. How much did it do to alleviate wealth inequality in either Britain or India? How much has ITT done? Citibank? United Fruit? The list goes on. Globalization feeds off of cheap labor, and not only wants to keep it cheap, but to make it cheaper.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;For all its problems, I think globalization will be pretty harsh on any country (us right now) that allows too much concentration of wealth.&#8221;</p>
<p>Geez, robby, where do you think the concentration of wealth comes from? Doesn&#8217;t globalization have a lot to do with it? Globalization weakens the control of governments over their own economies and makes smaller governments pawns of multinationals. The East India Company was a multinational. How much did it do to alleviate wealth inequality in either Britain or India? How much has ITT done? Citibank? United Fruit? The list goes on. Globalization feeds off of cheap labor, and not only wants to keep it cheap, but to make it cheaper.</p>
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		<title>By: Min</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Min]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2009 18:35:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[El gobierno de los ricos, por los ricos, para los ricos.

:(]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>El gobierno de los ricos, por los ricos, para los ricos.</p>
<p>:(</p>
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		<title>By: Min</title>
		<link>http://baselinescenario.com/2009/12/01/feudal-lords-of-finance/#comment-35084</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Min]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2009 18:30:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;If a technical innovation can be integrated into their current business structure, then they may well provide the initial push to turn it into reality, but if the technology is disruptive to their business model, they can use their wealth to suppress it using the legal system and by influencing legislation and regulatory enforcement.&quot;

Good point. Here is an example of suppression:

Conventional water heaters are wasteful of energy, radiating a lot of it away just to keep a certain amount of hot water available. In addition, if you have a large enough family, you can easily run out of hot water when you need it. When I was living in Japan some decades ago, my shower had an attached gas heater that heated water on the way to the shower and otherwise was turned off. Water was heated only when it was needed, and I never ran out of hot water. Economical and efficient. When I returned to the U. S. I could find no such heater.

Today, however, I have a portable dishwasher that heats water on demand and costs around $100. I also have an on demand water heater for the house. Unlike the Japanese unit or the dishwasher, it costs thousands of dollars. The reason is protectionism in the form of regulation. I understand safety concerns, but if my dishwasher is safe, why can&#039;t I get on demand hot water for my shower for 5 - 10% of what I had to pay?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;If a technical innovation can be integrated into their current business structure, then they may well provide the initial push to turn it into reality, but if the technology is disruptive to their business model, they can use their wealth to suppress it using the legal system and by influencing legislation and regulatory enforcement.&#8221;</p>
<p>Good point. Here is an example of suppression:</p>
<p>Conventional water heaters are wasteful of energy, radiating a lot of it away just to keep a certain amount of hot water available. In addition, if you have a large enough family, you can easily run out of hot water when you need it. When I was living in Japan some decades ago, my shower had an attached gas heater that heated water on the way to the shower and otherwise was turned off. Water was heated only when it was needed, and I never ran out of hot water. Economical and efficient. When I returned to the U. S. I could find no such heater.</p>
<p>Today, however, I have a portable dishwasher that heats water on demand and costs around $100. I also have an on demand water heater for the house. Unlike the Japanese unit or the dishwasher, it costs thousands of dollars. The reason is protectionism in the form of regulation. I understand safety concerns, but if my dishwasher is safe, why can&#8217;t I get on demand hot water for my shower for 5 &#8211; 10% of what I had to pay?</p>
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		<title>By: Charlie Cooper</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Charlie Cooper]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2009 15:54:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;my dream, my vision….hundreds of thousands of unarmed citizens laying siege upon the Goldman Sachs building. Peacefully surrounding the place – no one allowed to enter, for however long it takes for their empire to crumble.&quot;

To do this, we have to start talking face-to-face with the working-class people who are jobless, underemployed, etc.  We have to build a movement thru which people demand good, green jobs.  See my article in 12/3/09 Baltimore Sun: www.baltimoresun.com/news/opinion/oped/bal-op.jobs03dec03,0,2055928.story]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;my dream, my vision….hundreds of thousands of unarmed citizens laying siege upon the Goldman Sachs building. Peacefully surrounding the place – no one allowed to enter, for however long it takes for their empire to crumble.&#8221;</p>
<p>To do this, we have to start talking face-to-face with the working-class people who are jobless, underemployed, etc.  We have to build a movement thru which people demand good, green jobs.  See my article in 12/3/09 Baltimore Sun: <a href="http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/opinion/oped/bal-op.jobs03dec03,0,2055928.story" rel="nofollow">http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/opinion/oped/bal-op.jobs03dec03,0,2055928.story</a></p>
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		<title>By: zze</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2009 11:46:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[An Elite is justified if it has a demonstrably useful talent above that of the masses. In ancient egypt, knowing to read, write and do math was certainly a rare and useful ability.

Nowadays, they tell us that the ability to take bold, calculated risks and have charisma (&quot;leadership qualities&quot;) is something only rare people possess. 

Well, is it so?

Remember, democracy used to be out of the question when the masses were illiterate and could not form an intelligible opinion about domestic and foreign state-wide affairs. Now they are more educated, and many of them have sound judgments. What about the allocation of economic resources? Shouldn&#039;t we all be forced to study some basic finance and entrepreneurship skills and be allowed to do what all the financial elite is doing?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An Elite is justified if it has a demonstrably useful talent above that of the masses. In ancient egypt, knowing to read, write and do math was certainly a rare and useful ability.</p>
<p>Nowadays, they tell us that the ability to take bold, calculated risks and have charisma (&#8220;leadership qualities&#8221;) is something only rare people possess. </p>
<p>Well, is it so?</p>
<p>Remember, democracy used to be out of the question when the masses were illiterate and could not form an intelligible opinion about domestic and foreign state-wide affairs. Now they are more educated, and many of them have sound judgments. What about the allocation of economic resources? Shouldn&#8217;t we all be forced to study some basic finance and entrepreneurship skills and be allowed to do what all the financial elite is doing?</p>
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		<title>By: TonyForesta</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2009 08:41:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[We&#039;d love to get back to work some guy in a cube.   Got any suggestions that don&#039;t involve WallMart or McDonalds, or other forms inservitude and slavery?  Millions of you fellow Americans and I would love to hear them.   FBI???? If only we were so lucky to only have to worry about the imbeciles in the FBI.  The FBI is proof positive of the many manifold inept FAILURES of US intelligence.  We know the socalled government spy&#039;s on innocent Americans without due process or any constitutional restraint, and is ready and eager to unleash a wild array of weapons on it&#039;s citizens when they get the green light.  We know and accept this horrible reality.  The fools and incompetents at the FBI are the least of our worries.   That said, America&#039;s hypersuperiorness has already been shattered and undermined in Iraq and Afghanistan, wherein the worlds most advanced most well funded, best trained, best armed, most technoligically advanced, and most lethal warfighters in the history of the world - after eight long years of combat - are incapable of defeating enemies with no air or sea power, no major major armored force, and no military industrial complex whose, - primary weapons are AK-47&#039;s, RPG&#039;s, and IED&#039;s.  You are living in the oldworld can&#039;t think of cute name.  You imagine an all powerful government and an all powerful omnipotent untouchable predatorclass sanctioned by the heavens to reign supremist over everyone else on earth.  Events of the last eight years, politically, economically, militarily, and morally should alert you to the fact that all the kings horses and all the kings men, cannot put Amerika back together again.  There will be a balancing and reckoning!!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We&#8217;d love to get back to work some guy in a cube.   Got any suggestions that don&#8217;t involve WallMart or McDonalds, or other forms inservitude and slavery?  Millions of you fellow Americans and I would love to hear them.   FBI???? If only we were so lucky to only have to worry about the imbeciles in the FBI.  The FBI is proof positive of the many manifold inept FAILURES of US intelligence.  We know the socalled government spy&#8217;s on innocent Americans without due process or any constitutional restraint, and is ready and eager to unleash a wild array of weapons on it&#8217;s citizens when they get the green light.  We know and accept this horrible reality.  The fools and incompetents at the FBI are the least of our worries.   That said, America&#8217;s hypersuperiorness has already been shattered and undermined in Iraq and Afghanistan, wherein the worlds most advanced most well funded, best trained, best armed, most technoligically advanced, and most lethal warfighters in the history of the world &#8211; after eight long years of combat &#8211; are incapable of defeating enemies with no air or sea power, no major major armored force, and no military industrial complex whose, &#8211; primary weapons are AK-47&#8242;s, RPG&#8217;s, and IED&#8217;s.  You are living in the oldworld can&#8217;t think of cute name.  You imagine an all powerful government and an all powerful omnipotent untouchable predatorclass sanctioned by the heavens to reign supremist over everyone else on earth.  Events of the last eight years, politically, economically, militarily, and morally should alert you to the fact that all the kings horses and all the kings men, cannot put Amerika back together again.  There will be a balancing and reckoning!!!</p>
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