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	<title>Comments on: Note to Jamie Dimon: Repeating Something Doesn&#8217;t Make It True</title>
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		<title>By: watt d farjk</title>
		<link>http://baselinescenario.com/2009/11/13/note-to-jamie-dimon-repeating-something-doesnt-make-it-true/#comment-34254</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 19:44:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If any of you work for a big company, you understand the fallacies of efficiencies, synergies, economy of scale, etc., that the MBA types like to trot out. They just don&#039;t materialize. The bigger a company gets, the more layers of management, the more meetings, the more garbled top-down messages, the more &quot;process management&quot;, the more business trends du jour, the more alienated the workers become...need I say more?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If any of you work for a big company, you understand the fallacies of efficiencies, synergies, economy of scale, etc., that the MBA types like to trot out. They just don&#8217;t materialize. The bigger a company gets, the more layers of management, the more meetings, the more garbled top-down messages, the more &#8220;process management&#8221;, the more business trends du jour, the more alienated the workers become&#8230;need I say more?</p>
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		<title>By: anti_fascist_freedom_fighter</title>
		<link>http://baselinescenario.com/2009/11/13/note-to-jamie-dimon-repeating-something-doesnt-make-it-true/#comment-34205</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[anti_fascist_freedom_fighter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 05:57:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[“Scale can create value for shareholders; for consumers, who are beneficiaries of better products, delivered more quickly and at less cost; for the businesses that are our customers; and for the economy as a whole.”

Let&#039;s see, isn&#039;t that MUTUALLY exclusive?  I&#039;m not a shareholder of Chase, but I have one of their credit cards, which recently readjusted to 29.99%.  

Good for Chase shareholders.  But for me, as a &quot;consumer&quot;, I got a worse product, delivered quickly at HIGHER cost.  For the economy as a whole, nah... don&#039;t believe emptying my pockets to pay Chase has helped keep anybody in business in my town...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“Scale can create value for shareholders; for consumers, who are beneficiaries of better products, delivered more quickly and at less cost; for the businesses that are our customers; and for the economy as a whole.”</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s see, isn&#8217;t that MUTUALLY exclusive?  I&#8217;m not a shareholder of Chase, but I have one of their credit cards, which recently readjusted to 29.99%.  </p>
<p>Good for Chase shareholders.  But for me, as a &#8220;consumer&#8221;, I got a worse product, delivered quickly at HIGHER cost.  For the economy as a whole, nah&#8230; don&#8217;t believe emptying my pockets to pay Chase has helped keep anybody in business in my town&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: monday1929</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[monday1929]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 02:13:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Why would anyone listen to the CEO of a Bankrupt bank?
Or a Tax cheat Treasury Head?
Or an always wrong Fed head?
Just wonderin&#039;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why would anyone listen to the CEO of a Bankrupt bank?<br />
Or a Tax cheat Treasury Head?<br />
Or an always wrong Fed head?<br />
Just wonderin&#8217;</p>
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		<title>By: anne</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[anne]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 22:41:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Scale can create value for shareholders; for consumers, who are beneficiaries of better products, delivered more quickly and at less cost; for the businesses that are our customers; and for the economy as a whole.”

Thus spoke Jamie Dimon, who, like Lloyd Blankfein, finds himself doing &quot;god&#039;s work&quot; while a banker.

I&#039;m waiting for the op-ed piece where Dimon explains the benefits consumers have reaped thanks to the big banks.  I don&#039;t know a consumer who feels they&#039;ve gained anything by the consolidation of the banking system.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Scale can create value for shareholders; for consumers, who are beneficiaries of better products, delivered more quickly and at less cost; for the businesses that are our customers; and for the economy as a whole.”</p>
<p>Thus spoke Jamie Dimon, who, like Lloyd Blankfein, finds himself doing &#8220;god&#8217;s work&#8221; while a banker.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m waiting for the op-ed piece where Dimon explains the benefits consumers have reaped thanks to the big banks.  I don&#8217;t know a consumer who feels they&#8217;ve gained anything by the consolidation of the banking system.</p>
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		<title>By: bk</title>
		<link>http://baselinescenario.com/2009/11/13/note-to-jamie-dimon-repeating-something-doesnt-make-it-true/#comment-33956</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[bk]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 18:03:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Once we agree that Too Big To Fail is a problem, how to we deal with it? I agree that an &quot;arbitrary&quot; limit on size is and anti-trust actions are inefficient. They also suffer from regulatory capture.

An interesting proposal was floated several months ago to deal with TBTF. Increase reserve requirements as banks get bigger. This makes large banks less likely to fail, and lowers their opportunities for profit as they get larger. I don&#039;t know what happened to this idea.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Once we agree that Too Big To Fail is a problem, how to we deal with it? I agree that an &#8220;arbitrary&#8221; limit on size is and anti-trust actions are inefficient. They also suffer from regulatory capture.</p>
<p>An interesting proposal was floated several months ago to deal with TBTF. Increase reserve requirements as banks get bigger. This makes large banks less likely to fail, and lowers their opportunities for profit as they get larger. I don&#8217;t know what happened to this idea.</p>
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		<title>By: Ted K</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ted K]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 05:34:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[My post could have been misunderstood. I meant Kwak when I said James. I was referring to what the Treasury had said to the bloggers who promised the Treasury their quotes would remain anonymous.  One of the propaganda stunts was selling &quot;interconnectedness&quot; to the bloggers.  

Of course Mr. Coffman&#039;s views I respect.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My post could have been misunderstood. I meant Kwak when I said James. I was referring to what the Treasury had said to the bloggers who promised the Treasury their quotes would remain anonymous.  One of the propaganda stunts was selling &#8220;interconnectedness&#8221; to the bloggers.  </p>
<p>Of course Mr. Coffman&#8217;s views I respect.</p>
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		<title>By: Ted K</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ted K]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 05:19:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[No, that&#039;s a piece of manure that&#039;s tied to the value of another piece of manure.  And if you have no capital you say &quot;I&#039;m to valuable to the economy, so you must pay for my manure&quot;.  Then when the government tells you you can&#039;t sell manure the same way, you yell &quot;socialism!!!&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, that&#8217;s a piece of manure that&#8217;s tied to the value of another piece of manure.  And if you have no capital you say &#8220;I&#8217;m to valuable to the economy, so you must pay for my manure&#8221;.  Then when the government tells you you can&#8217;t sell manure the same way, you yell &#8220;socialism!!!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: 3-D</title>
		<link>http://baselinescenario.com/2009/11/13/note-to-jamie-dimon-repeating-something-doesnt-make-it-true/#comment-33855</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[3-D]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2009 18:26:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t know that I agree James. A lot of marketing and sales folks will tell you that if you repeat the same thing enough times and loud enough, your audience will believe its true. Even if it ain&#039;t true. Shout down your opponents, repeat repeat repeat, eventually the masses believe you and line up in your corner.

Sadly, they&#039;re right, and that&#039;s exactly what Dimon is thinking I wager.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know that I agree James. A lot of marketing and sales folks will tell you that if you repeat the same thing enough times and loud enough, your audience will believe its true. Even if it ain&#8217;t true. Shout down your opponents, repeat repeat repeat, eventually the masses believe you and line up in your corner.</p>
<p>Sadly, they&#8217;re right, and that&#8217;s exactly what Dimon is thinking I wager.</p>
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		<title>By: 3-D</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[3-D]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2009 18:21:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I know there&#039;s some kind of market for horse manure, if that&#039;s what you&#039;re asking.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know there&#8217;s some kind of market for horse manure, if that&#8217;s what you&#8217;re asking.</p>
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		<title>By: Ruthmarie</title>
		<link>http://baselinescenario.com/2009/11/13/note-to-jamie-dimon-repeating-something-doesnt-make-it-true/#comment-33852</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ruthmarie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2009 18:09:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think its hilarious - its a whole new tag for Google spiders to start ranking.  There is certainly no lack of material for such a tag.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think its hilarious &#8211; its a whole new tag for Google spiders to start ranking.  There is certainly no lack of material for such a tag.</p>
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		<title>By: fwm</title>
		<link>http://baselinescenario.com/2009/11/13/note-to-jamie-dimon-repeating-something-doesnt-make-it-true/#comment-33851</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[fwm]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2009 18:01:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In a bailout, the &quot;big banks&#039;&quot; position is strengthened knowing that the Federal Reserve is tasked with ensuring the stability of the financial system, has a blank cheque, and little accountability.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In a bailout, the &#8220;big banks&#8217;&#8221; position is strengthened knowing that the Federal Reserve is tasked with ensuring the stability of the financial system, has a blank cheque, and little accountability.</p>
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		<title>By: fwm</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[fwm]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2009 16:34:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Banks that are too-big-to fail, because of the damage they would cause, can hold the government(taxpayer) hostage, and set the terms of bailouts.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Banks that are too-big-to fail, because of the damage they would cause, can hold the government(taxpayer) hostage, and set the terms of bailouts.</p>
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		<title>By: hermanas</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[hermanas]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2009 11:30:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Maybe,&quot;Scale can create value....for the whole economy.&quot; but did they? Or did they collapse the economy?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe,&#8221;Scale can create value&#8230;.for the whole economy.&#8221; but did they? Or did they collapse the economy?</p>
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		<title>By: bungalowbill</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[bungalowbill]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2009 04:20:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t find it very dignified from James Kwak to LOL. It&#039;s rather off-putting.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t find it very dignified from James Kwak to LOL. It&#8217;s rather off-putting.</p>
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		<title>By: Uncle Billy Cunctator</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Uncle Billy Cunctator]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2009 03:51:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Speaking of the truth...

One of the big roots of our pre and current dicaments is capture -- capture of industry and government.  Most of this comes from the inability to vet people properly, and/or investigate them.  Yves Smith posted a link that may be far more important than even she realizes.  It talks about the state of electronic mind-reading.  We are far far better at this than most people realize.

http://hplusmagazine.com/articles/neuro/mind-reading-neural-decoding-goes-mainstream

Watch the 60 minutes video.  The Carnegie Mellon fellow puts the estimate for when we&#039;re able to read complex thought by machine, at 5 years.  Watch carefully the fellow who says &quot;we can&#039;t do that yet, but we&#039;re working on it.&quot;  (Paul Wolpe, Director of the Center for Ethics - Run! - at Emory University.  

http://ethics.emory.edu/people/Director.html

Watch his eyes carefully when he says &quot;we&#039;re not there yet.&quot;  Is he being truthful?)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Speaking of the truth&#8230;</p>
<p>One of the big roots of our pre and current dicaments is capture &#8212; capture of industry and government.  Most of this comes from the inability to vet people properly, and/or investigate them.  Yves Smith posted a link that may be far more important than even she realizes.  It talks about the state of electronic mind-reading.  We are far far better at this than most people realize.</p>
<p><a href="http://hplusmagazine.com/articles/neuro/mind-reading-neural-decoding-goes-mainstream" rel="nofollow">http://hplusmagazine.com/articles/neuro/mind-reading-neural-decoding-goes-mainstream</a></p>
<p>Watch the 60 minutes video.  The Carnegie Mellon fellow puts the estimate for when we&#8217;re able to read complex thought by machine, at 5 years.  Watch carefully the fellow who says &#8220;we can&#8217;t do that yet, but we&#8217;re working on it.&#8221;  (Paul Wolpe, Director of the Center for Ethics &#8211; Run! &#8211; at Emory University.  </p>
<p><a href="http://ethics.emory.edu/people/Director.html" rel="nofollow">http://ethics.emory.edu/people/Director.html</a></p>
<p>Watch his eyes carefully when he says &#8220;we&#8217;re not there yet.&#8221;  Is he being truthful?)</p>
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