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	<title>Comments on: The Too Big to Fail, Too Big to Exist Act of 2009</title>
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		<title>By: Assassin</title>
		<link>http://baselinescenario.com/2009/11/09/the-too-big-to-fail-too-big-to-exist-act-of-2009/#comment-33814</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Assassin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2009 13:05:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Haven&#039;t you heard?  President Obama and Candidate Obama are one in the same:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/david-plouffe/president-obama-and-candi_b_343985.html

We know it&#039;s true because Obama&#039;s campaign manager tells us so.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Haven&#8217;t you heard?  President Obama and Candidate Obama are one in the same:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/david-plouffe/president-obama-and-candi_b_343985.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.huffingtonpost.com/david-plouffe/president-obama-and-candi_b_343985.html</a></p>
<p>We know it&#8217;s true because Obama&#8217;s campaign manager tells us so.</p>
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		<title>By: John Komlos</title>
		<link>http://baselinescenario.com/2009/11/09/the-too-big-to-fail-too-big-to-exist-act-of-2009/#comment-33808</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John Komlos]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2009 07:52:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[One of the problem is that Pres. Obama is surrounded by conventional thinkers. I mean, when was the last time Tim Geithner had lunch with an unemployed person in a main street eatery? Could anyone explain to me how Pres. Obama became so different from candidate Obama? 
John]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of the problem is that Pres. Obama is surrounded by conventional thinkers. I mean, when was the last time Tim Geithner had lunch with an unemployed person in a main street eatery? Could anyone explain to me how Pres. Obama became so different from candidate Obama?<br />
John</p>
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		<title>By: Pez Dispenser</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Pez Dispenser]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 01:03:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You must first &quot;clean house&quot; at the Treasury Department.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You must first &#8220;clean house&#8221; at the Treasury Department.</p>
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		<title>By: Jerry</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jerry]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 11:15:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sadly, the &quot;or else&quot; is already there. If an institution is not included on the &quot;list&quot;, and left to operate as it has been operating, what happens when fails and we then find it was &quot;too big to fail&quot;? Would we then have to draw and quarter the person responsible for the &quot;list&quot;?

What seems to be an appropriately conservative position would be to return to the legal structure that existed when we didn&#039;t have to worry about the financial system itself being toxic.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sadly, the &#8220;or else&#8221; is already there. If an institution is not included on the &#8220;list&#8221;, and left to operate as it has been operating, what happens when fails and we then find it was &#8220;too big to fail&#8221;? Would we then have to draw and quarter the person responsible for the &#8220;list&#8221;?</p>
<p>What seems to be an appropriately conservative position would be to return to the legal structure that existed when we didn&#8217;t have to worry about the financial system itself being toxic.</p>
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		<title>By: jkiss</title>
		<link>http://baselinescenario.com/2009/11/09/the-too-big-to-fail-too-big-to-exist-act-of-2009/#comment-33548</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jkiss]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 03:03:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Great point, this is both the key issue and the logical way to put the option to banks.  However, no bank would choose the break up option, assuming that when push comes to shove they will retain their position at the trough.  

Accordingly, a better way out of the box is to say that all banks that received funds in this crisis must be (according to both this and the prior administration) by definition too big to fail - after all, the FDIC has allowed all banks under its supervision to fail regardless of size.  This, too brings us to an impasse - this list includes Goldman, there is no chance that such a definition will be used.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great point, this is both the key issue and the logical way to put the option to banks.  However, no bank would choose the break up option, assuming that when push comes to shove they will retain their position at the trough.  </p>
<p>Accordingly, a better way out of the box is to say that all banks that received funds in this crisis must be (according to both this and the prior administration) by definition too big to fail &#8211; after all, the FDIC has allowed all banks under its supervision to fail regardless of size.  This, too brings us to an impasse &#8211; this list includes Goldman, there is no chance that such a definition will be used.</p>
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		<title>By: secularist10</title>
		<link>http://baselinescenario.com/2009/11/09/the-too-big-to-fail-too-big-to-exist-act-of-2009/#comment-33530</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[secularist10]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 23:33:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Good to see there&#039;s still some common sense in government, even in the Senate. Unfortunately, I fear the institutional bias of the Congress is such that real, effective reform is an impossible dream. The Democrats are in the pocket of Wall Street, and if the Dems won&#039;t impose some common sense solutions, the &quot;free market&quot; Republicans sure won&#039;t.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good to see there&#8217;s still some common sense in government, even in the Senate. Unfortunately, I fear the institutional bias of the Congress is such that real, effective reform is an impossible dream. The Democrats are in the pocket of Wall Street, and if the Dems won&#8217;t impose some common sense solutions, the &#8220;free market&#8221; Republicans sure won&#8217;t.</p>
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		<title>By: cougar_w</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[cougar_w]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 19:29:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This bill is media disguised as legislation. Sanders couldn&#039;t get anyone in the media to stand up to the banks and just say what everyone is thinking, that too big to fail is too big to exist. He probably can&#039;t even hold a press conference and have anyone show up and report that someone thinks too big to fail is too big to exist.

But Sanders can craft a bill. And he can title it what he likes. And the MSM pretty much have to report it as such.

Kinda funny.

cougar]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This bill is media disguised as legislation. Sanders couldn&#8217;t get anyone in the media to stand up to the banks and just say what everyone is thinking, that too big to fail is too big to exist. He probably can&#8217;t even hold a press conference and have anyone show up and report that someone thinks too big to fail is too big to exist.</p>
<p>But Sanders can craft a bill. And he can title it what he likes. And the MSM pretty much have to report it as such.</p>
<p>Kinda funny.</p>
<p>cougar</p>
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		<title>By: cougar_w</title>
		<link>http://baselinescenario.com/2009/11/09/the-too-big-to-fail-too-big-to-exist-act-of-2009/#comment-33501</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[cougar_w]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 19:23:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mortality is healthy. Good things should die. The things that never die turn out to be evils.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mortality is healthy. Good things should die. The things that never die turn out to be evils.</p>
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		<title>By: Bayard</title>
		<link>http://baselinescenario.com/2009/11/09/the-too-big-to-fail-too-big-to-exist-act-of-2009/#comment-33467</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bayard]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 05:16:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I hereby nominate Bernie Sanders to replace Tim Geithner, and Elizabeth Warren to head a new cabinet department entitled &quot;The Fairness to Mainstreet Department&quot; with the power to disallow any economic and financial practices which may be considered a threat to the ordinary citizen.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hereby nominate Bernie Sanders to replace Tim Geithner, and Elizabeth Warren to head a new cabinet department entitled &#8220;The Fairness to Mainstreet Department&#8221; with the power to disallow any economic and financial practices which may be considered a threat to the ordinary citizen.</p>
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		<title>By: some guy in a cube</title>
		<link>http://baselinescenario.com/2009/11/09/the-too-big-to-fail-too-big-to-exist-act-of-2009/#comment-33463</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[some guy in a cube]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 03:19:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Please, people, can we debate the merits of Sanders&#039; bill AFTER this year&#039;s bonuses are paid out, OK?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please, people, can we debate the merits of Sanders&#8217; bill AFTER this year&#8217;s bonuses are paid out, OK?</p>
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		<title>By: DavosSherman</title>
		<link>http://baselinescenario.com/2009/11/09/the-too-big-to-fail-too-big-to-exist-act-of-2009/#comment-33459</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[DavosSherman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 02:15:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Oh, I&#039;m all for TBTF being total BS. Having said that I can&#039;t wait to see how they plan on defusing 200 trillion in derivatives that the big banks hold.

Health Care and now this.

F*&amp;#ing genuses up there.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, I&#8217;m all for TBTF being total BS. Having said that I can&#8217;t wait to see how they plan on defusing 200 trillion in derivatives that the big banks hold.</p>
<p>Health Care and now this.</p>
<p>F*&amp;#ing genuses up there.</p>
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		<title>By: Min</title>
		<link>http://baselinescenario.com/2009/11/09/the-too-big-to-fail-too-big-to-exist-act-of-2009/#comment-33453</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Min]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 23:12:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Was Increase Mather too big to fail? 

;)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Was Increase Mather too big to fail? </p>
<p>;)</p>
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		<title>By: The pragmatist</title>
		<link>http://baselinescenario.com/2009/11/09/the-too-big-to-fail-too-big-to-exist-act-of-2009/#comment-33441</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[The pragmatist]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 22:04:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am doing my part.  Besides moving my money I am posting comments encouraging people.  I also sent out a mass e-mail to one of those mailing lists that forwards me every right wing criticism of government.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am doing my part.  Besides moving my money I am posting comments encouraging people.  I also sent out a mass e-mail to one of those mailing lists that forwards me every right wing criticism of government.</p>
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		<title>By: 3-D</title>
		<link>http://baselinescenario.com/2009/11/09/the-too-big-to-fail-too-big-to-exist-act-of-2009/#comment-33439</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[3-D]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 21:20:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I care enough to sign it, but I still doubt that internet petitions hold *any* significance on any issue to this day. For some reason the reduced amount of effort required to create, promote, and sign one seems to make people unwilling to take them seriously. It&#039;s like peoples&#039; genuine heartfelt opinions are somehow less valid on a computer screen.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I care enough to sign it, but I still doubt that internet petitions hold *any* significance on any issue to this day. For some reason the reduced amount of effort required to create, promote, and sign one seems to make people unwilling to take them seriously. It&#8217;s like peoples&#8217; genuine heartfelt opinions are somehow less valid on a computer screen.</p>
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		<title>By: btraven</title>
		<link>http://baselinescenario.com/2009/11/09/the-too-big-to-fail-too-big-to-exist-act-of-2009/#comment-33438</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[btraven]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 20:57:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Love the bill - except for giving the Treasury Sec the power to create the list.

And, being realistic - TBTB will NEVER let this happen.

We are doomed.  Just best to prepare oneself for the collapse that has already started.b]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Love the bill &#8211; except for giving the Treasury Sec the power to create the list.</p>
<p>And, being realistic &#8211; TBTB will NEVER let this happen.</p>
<p>We are doomed.  Just best to prepare oneself for the collapse that has already started.b</p>
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