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		<title>By: Tom Shillock</title>
		<link>http://baselinescenario.com/2009/10/29/does-ben-bernanke-have-the-facts-right-on-banking/#comment-32696</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tom Shillock]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 00:07:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It seems to me that Bernanke has gone beyond what was necesaary to prevent a worse economic problem and continues to do os.  If he said something inconsistent with that would if matter?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems to me that Bernanke has gone beyond what was necesaary to prevent a worse economic problem and continues to do os.  If he said something inconsistent with that would if matter?</p>
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		<title>By: fwm</title>
		<link>http://baselinescenario.com/2009/10/29/does-ben-bernanke-have-the-facts-right-on-banking/#comment-32598</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[fwm]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 15:28:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Bernanke ..stays carefully on the sidelines&quot;  ; Maybe that&#039;s because he Walks a Political Tightrope:

Technically, the Fed is an independent body, but soon a majority of the seven Federal Reserve Board members will be democratic appointees.The Federal Reserve , whose responsibilities include monetary policy, financial regulation, and consumer protection, is run by the seven members of the Board of Governors. The members are appointed by the President, subject to Senate confirmation. The following lists the current status of Board members:

 
Federal Reserve Board Members            Term Expires

Bernanke  Chairman                         2020
  Term as Chairman        expires  January 2010
Kohn    Vice-Chairman                      2016 
  Term as Vice-Chair          expires June 2010
Duke                                       2011
Tarullo Democratic  appointee              2022
Warsh                                      2018
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Bernanke ..stays carefully on the sidelines&#8221;  ; Maybe that&#8217;s because he Walks a Political Tightrope:</p>
<p>Technically, the Fed is an independent body, but soon a majority of the seven Federal Reserve Board members will be democratic appointees.The Federal Reserve , whose responsibilities include monetary policy, financial regulation, and consumer protection, is run by the seven members of the Board of Governors. The members are appointed by the President, subject to Senate confirmation. The following lists the current status of Board members:</p>
<p>Federal Reserve Board Members            Term Expires</p>
<p>Bernanke  Chairman                         2020<br />
  Term as Chairman        expires  January 2010<br />
Kohn    Vice-Chairman                      2016<br />
  Term as Vice-Chair          expires June 2010<br />
Duke                                       2011<br />
Tarullo Democratic  appointee              2022<br />
Warsh                                      2018<br />
open<br />
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		<title>By: Tony Frank</title>
		<link>http://baselinescenario.com/2009/10/29/does-ben-bernanke-have-the-facts-right-on-banking/#comment-32498</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tony Frank]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Oct 2009 22:57:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Bernie has never had a real job and only knows what has been written by others.

However, it did not take him long to learn from greenspan to do just what the financial mafia tells you to do.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bernie has never had a real job and only knows what has been written by others.</p>
<p>However, it did not take him long to learn from greenspan to do just what the financial mafia tells you to do.</p>
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		<title>By: diane</title>
		<link>http://baselinescenario.com/2009/10/29/does-ben-bernanke-have-the-facts-right-on-banking/#comment-32488</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[diane]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Oct 2009 16:30:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree with everything you&#039;ve said, Ray, but I still strongly believe that a sustainable economy must include things like manufacturing, agriculture, technology, innovation, small businesses, etc., as well as a robust financial sector that invests in these things. It seems as though the financial sector has simply become a huge casino, where bets are made on thin air, rather than the investment tool it should be.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with everything you&#8217;ve said, Ray, but I still strongly believe that a sustainable economy must include things like manufacturing, agriculture, technology, innovation, small businesses, etc., as well as a robust financial sector that invests in these things. It seems as though the financial sector has simply become a huge casino, where bets are made on thin air, rather than the investment tool it should be.</p>
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		<title>By: Uncle Billy Cunctator</title>
		<link>http://baselinescenario.com/2009/10/29/does-ben-bernanke-have-the-facts-right-on-banking/#comment-32462</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Uncle Billy Cunctator]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 21:15:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[http://baselinescenario.com/2009/10/29/naming-systemically-dangerous-firms/#comment-32365

And don&#039;t forget the lady before whom Paulson reportedly got down on one knee and begged for her support to push TARP through, in *her* office.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://baselinescenario.com/2009/10/29/naming-systemically-dangerous-firms/#comment-32365" rel="nofollow">http://baselinescenario.com/2009/10/29/naming-systemically-dangerous-firms/#comment-32365</a></p>
<p>And don&#8217;t forget the lady before whom Paulson reportedly got down on one knee and begged for her support to push TARP through, in *her* office.</p>
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		<title>By: tippygolden</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[tippygolden]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 20:13:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[hmmmmmm

Some of those large pension funds might regret they did not lend their billions to Muhammad Yunis (10% interest 1% default rate) rather than  entrust their savings with zombies in the shadow banking system.

Paradigm shift?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hmmmmmm</p>
<p>Some of those large pension funds might regret they did not lend their billions to Muhammad Yunis (10% interest 1% default rate) rather than  entrust their savings with zombies in the shadow banking system.</p>
<p>Paradigm shift?</p>
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		<title>By: tippygodlen</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[tippygodlen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 19:37:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Tough cookies? :) Maybe there is a gender war underway as the world struggles to find a new paradigm. The women and the feminist (and yes men too can be feminist) against the old boys club. Let me see... Brooksley Born, Elizabeth Warren ... and now Neelie Croes and ...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tough cookies? :) Maybe there is a gender war underway as the world struggles to find a new paradigm. The women and the feminist (and yes men too can be feminist) against the old boys club. Let me see&#8230; Brooksley Born, Elizabeth Warren &#8230; and now Neelie Croes and &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Ray</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ray]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 17:42:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Diane, I think we actually came close to being a banana republic after the 2000 election.  Think about it; we had a very controversial election that was only decided after a partisan supreme court decision, our economic policy was tilted lopsidedly in favor of the very wealthy at the expense of middle class and we came the closest we have ever come to becoming a police state after being attacked by terrorists.

Back on topic, though.  Our economy is not sustainable as it is because it is based on debt.  I&#039;m not talking about government debt, but individual debt.  Specifically, the debt incurred by the middle class as they try to keep their standard of living while losing purchasing power to inflation, taxes and salary stagnation (look at the records indicating the shrinking amount of household savings over the past 25 years, until this crisis hit, anyway.)  As the middle class is by far the largest segment of our population, we count on it to keep our economy going.  When well paying manufacturing jobs were being lost and replaced by less well paying service industry jobs, credit became even more important to the economy, thus the financial sector grew.  The problem was that eventually people came to the point of not being able to pay their credit bills and loans became riskier.  The financial services had to find a way to spread that risk around to keep the economy going.  One result was derivatives, which not only spread the risk, but proved so difficult to track and understand that few in the financial industry itself knew what was going on.  Another result was adustable rate mortgages and interest only loans, both created to allow an increasingly debt ridden middle class to keep buying houses and thus keeping the housing bubble going.

Unfortunately, we have the champions of the financial industry now tasked with cleaning up the mess while keeping very lucrative (to a vew, anyway) financial sector intact.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Diane, I think we actually came close to being a banana republic after the 2000 election.  Think about it; we had a very controversial election that was only decided after a partisan supreme court decision, our economic policy was tilted lopsidedly in favor of the very wealthy at the expense of middle class and we came the closest we have ever come to becoming a police state after being attacked by terrorists.</p>
<p>Back on topic, though.  Our economy is not sustainable as it is because it is based on debt.  I&#8217;m not talking about government debt, but individual debt.  Specifically, the debt incurred by the middle class as they try to keep their standard of living while losing purchasing power to inflation, taxes and salary stagnation (look at the records indicating the shrinking amount of household savings over the past 25 years, until this crisis hit, anyway.)  As the middle class is by far the largest segment of our population, we count on it to keep our economy going.  When well paying manufacturing jobs were being lost and replaced by less well paying service industry jobs, credit became even more important to the economy, thus the financial sector grew.  The problem was that eventually people came to the point of not being able to pay their credit bills and loans became riskier.  The financial services had to find a way to spread that risk around to keep the economy going.  One result was derivatives, which not only spread the risk, but proved so difficult to track and understand that few in the financial industry itself knew what was going on.  Another result was adustable rate mortgages and interest only loans, both created to allow an increasingly debt ridden middle class to keep buying houses and thus keeping the housing bubble going.</p>
<p>Unfortunately, we have the champions of the financial industry now tasked with cleaning up the mess while keeping very lucrative (to a vew, anyway) financial sector intact.</p>
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		<title>By: carol</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[carol]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 17:01:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Jessica,
indeed off topic, but I do appreciate your comment. I was a little bit suspicious re the timing of the study release (at the height of the debate), but with hardly any time left after following the ongoing financial horror story, and reading the study came out of Harvard Medical School, I did not check the report.

Thanks for the link to the factcheck website: ¨Now, on to the tough question: Is the 45,000 figure accurate? We can’t say for sure, but scores of other studies also conclude that persons without health insurance have a higher chance of dying prematurely than those with health insurance.¨

Indeed, the 45,000 number is by far the highest of the numbers mentioned from other studies, but what remains it that involuntary uninsurance is a cause of death, and other studies conclude 13,000 premature deaths per year (ages 55-64) or 18,000 (ages 25-64).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jessica,<br />
indeed off topic, but I do appreciate your comment. I was a little bit suspicious re the timing of the study release (at the height of the debate), but with hardly any time left after following the ongoing financial horror story, and reading the study came out of Harvard Medical School, I did not check the report.</p>
<p>Thanks for the link to the factcheck website: ¨Now, on to the tough question: Is the 45,000 figure accurate? We can’t say for sure, but scores of other studies also conclude that persons without health insurance have a higher chance of dying prematurely than those with health insurance.¨</p>
<p>Indeed, the 45,000 number is by far the highest of the numbers mentioned from other studies, but what remains it that involuntary uninsurance is a cause of death, and other studies conclude 13,000 premature deaths per year (ages 55-64) or 18,000 (ages 25-64).</p>
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		<title>By: Silke</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Silke]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 15:19:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Bond Girl is really good on Catch 22s and whoever doesn&#039;t catch that is double-bind-blind
- probably one must have lived (nd suffered) in them, have experienced this feeling of being shackled hand and foot to be able to figure out where they&#039;ll most likely to next crop up.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bond Girl is really good on Catch 22s and whoever doesn&#8217;t catch that is double-bind-blind<br />
- probably one must have lived (nd suffered) in them, have experienced this feeling of being shackled hand and foot to be able to figure out where they&#8217;ll most likely to next crop up.</p>
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		<title>By: diane</title>
		<link>http://baselinescenario.com/2009/10/29/does-ben-bernanke-have-the-facts-right-on-banking/#comment-32436</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[diane]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 15:06:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The basic problem with this thinking is that the financial sector produces nothing - except risk and enrichment for individuals at the top. Finance should be the handmaiden of industry, small business and innovation, not the opposite. Unless we have a broad-based economy, our economy is not sustainable. If Bernanke (and Summers and Geithner) have their way, we will continue to see taxpayers&#039; money at risk in the TBTF casino. And, if global warming comes to pass, we may be watching our country turn into the largest banana republic in history.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The basic problem with this thinking is that the financial sector produces nothing &#8211; except risk and enrichment for individuals at the top. Finance should be the handmaiden of industry, small business and innovation, not the opposite. Unless we have a broad-based economy, our economy is not sustainable. If Bernanke (and Summers and Geithner) have their way, we will continue to see taxpayers&#8217; money at risk in the TBTF casino. And, if global warming comes to pass, we may be watching our country turn into the largest banana republic in history.</p>
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		<title>By: Jessica</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jessica]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 14:24:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I know that this is off topic, but I can see that you are a thoughtful, data driven thinker.  Before you promote the data regarding &quot;44,000 dying every year...&quot;, I would like to direct you to the actual study for your review. 
http://pnhp.org/excessdeaths/health-insurance-and-mortality-in-US-adults.pdf

How do you weigh these comments by the co-lead Harvard researcher,Dr. Steffie Woodlander :  &quot;The data from the National Center for Health Statistics assessed health insurance at a single point in time and did not validate self-reported insurance status.&quot;  &quot;We were unable to measure the effect of gaining or losing coverage after the interview.&quot;  Pay special attention to the time line.
http://www.factcheck.org/2009/09/dying-from-lack-of-insurance/
Two of the lead researchers are members of Physicians for a National Health Program (www.pnhp.org) which is a research and educational organization of 17,000 doctors who support single-payer national health insurance.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know that this is off topic, but I can see that you are a thoughtful, data driven thinker.  Before you promote the data regarding &#8220;44,000 dying every year&#8230;&#8221;, I would like to direct you to the actual study for your review.<br />
<a href="http://pnhp.org/excessdeaths/health-insurance-and-mortality-in-US-adults.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://pnhp.org/excessdeaths/health-insurance-and-mortality-in-US-adults.pdf</a></p>
<p>How do you weigh these comments by the co-lead Harvard researcher,Dr. Steffie Woodlander :  &#8220;The data from the National Center for Health Statistics assessed health insurance at a single point in time and did not validate self-reported insurance status.&#8221;  &#8220;We were unable to measure the effect of gaining or losing coverage after the interview.&#8221;  Pay special attention to the time line.<br />
<a href="http://www.factcheck.org/2009/09/dying-from-lack-of-insurance/" rel="nofollow">http://www.factcheck.org/2009/09/dying-from-lack-of-insurance/</a><br />
Two of the lead researchers are members of Physicians for a National Health Program (www.pnhp.org) which is a research and educational organization of 17,000 doctors who support single-payer national health insurance.</p>
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		<title>By: Ray</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ray]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 13:30:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Lambert, you are correct and I just posted an answer to Carol that includes the Clinton administration as architects of our current crisis.  Lawrence Summers and Robert Rubin guided the Clinton administrations economic policies and they both fought attempts to regulate the financial sector.

However, I stand by my statement that it is the Republican economic strategy that they are following.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lambert, you are correct and I just posted an answer to Carol that includes the Clinton administration as architects of our current crisis.  Lawrence Summers and Robert Rubin guided the Clinton administrations economic policies and they both fought attempts to regulate the financial sector.</p>
<p>However, I stand by my statement that it is the Republican economic strategy that they are following.</p>
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		<title>By: Ray</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ray]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 13:24:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have seen the evidence that shows the unprecedented gap in wealth in this country, a gap nurtured by the economic agenda of the Republican party.  The policies of the Reagan administration have led directly to this crisis we are in.  While we can point the finger at Reagan, both Bushes, Phil Gramm and his wife, Wendy, we also have to include Lawrence Sanders and Robert Rubin from the Clinton (and now Obama) administrations.  All are culpable in the deregulation schemes that have given us banks to big to fail and completely unregulated derivatives.

Unfortunately, President Obama seems to have fallen into the pro-financial industry camp and isn&#039;t moving to do anything to solve the root cause of the problem.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have seen the evidence that shows the unprecedented gap in wealth in this country, a gap nurtured by the economic agenda of the Republican party.  The policies of the Reagan administration have led directly to this crisis we are in.  While we can point the finger at Reagan, both Bushes, Phil Gramm and his wife, Wendy, we also have to include Lawrence Sanders and Robert Rubin from the Clinton (and now Obama) administrations.  All are culpable in the deregulation schemes that have given us banks to big to fail and completely unregulated derivatives.</p>
<p>Unfortunately, President Obama seems to have fallen into the pro-financial industry camp and isn&#8217;t moving to do anything to solve the root cause of the problem.</p>
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		<title>By: lambert strether</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[lambert strether]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 13:17:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[+100, Ray, with one qualification. You write:
&lt;blockquote&gt;
the Republican economic strategy
&lt;/blockquote&gt;
but isn&#039;t it more appropriate to write:
&lt;blockquote&gt;
the ruling elite economic strategy
&lt;/blockquote&gt;
After all, both parties have been part of the same system since the mid-1970s at least, when the policy decisions to financialize the economy seem to have been taken.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>+100, Ray, with one qualification. You write:</p>
<blockquote><p>
the Republican economic strategy
</p></blockquote>
<p>but isn&#8217;t it more appropriate to write:</p>
<blockquote><p>
the ruling elite economic strategy
</p></blockquote>
<p>After all, both parties have been part of the same system since the mid-1970s at least, when the policy decisions to financialize the economy seem to have been taken.</p>
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