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		<title>By: funkspiel</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 01:51:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;It&#039;s no disgrace to be poor, but it might as well be.&quot;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;It&#8217;s no disgrace to be poor, but it might as well be.&#8221;</p>
<p> &#8211; Kin Hubbard</p>
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		<title>By: Silke</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 20:12:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[well, long before gutenberg came along books were written, did the printed book make a difference? who knows gut for one it seems to have made literacy more desirable, the reformation would probably not have worked out without wider spread literacy and maybe the 30 years&#039; war would have been a bit shorter or longer.

long before the computer came along there was fraud, but every paper pusher I knew would immediately come up with all kinds of stories if one said to him/her:

&quot;to err is human, to really foul things up you need a computer&quot; 

(it is a saying by somebody, I forgot by whom but it is extremely popular and will always be quoted by old hands with a bitter laugh)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well, long before gutenberg came along books were written, did the printed book make a difference? who knows gut for one it seems to have made literacy more desirable, the reformation would probably not have worked out without wider spread literacy and maybe the 30 years&#8217; war would have been a bit shorter or longer.</p>
<p>long before the computer came along there was fraud, but every paper pusher I knew would immediately come up with all kinds of stories if one said to him/her:</p>
<p>&#8220;to err is human, to really foul things up you need a computer&#8221; </p>
<p>(it is a saying by somebody, I forgot by whom but it is extremely popular and will always be quoted by old hands with a bitter laugh)</p>
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		<title>By: Dozens McCoy</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 19:58:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I was about 3 when Austin Marx and the Wall Street Wiz kids were making headlines (Time Magazine) for using computers.  My father fixed his cars and became a friend.  And I eventually got to speak to him on his boat off Long Island, by phone, as I pitched him NYC Munis, 6 percent at par (... what? They were commission free!)

The role of computers and the history of technology is a fascinating topic to be sure, but if I had the time to sit in mom&#039;s basement eating Cheetos with my CB radio and thinking about how things derailed since Louie Raneri&#039;s CMOs got a stamp from Congress, I think I&#039;d rather us it to interview, say &quot;Trader&quot; Victor Sperandeo (who started out as the personal accountant for Lehman&#039;s partner/s), or maybe a fella like William Baumol, who really should get a Nobel prize despite of Paul Samuelson&#039;s monopolistic textbook and the nephew&#039;s backhand. 

Even better-- I&#039;d hail Judge Richard Posner on my shortwave, to ask what makes the consumer a king at all costs (or what makes kings of the fine folks who head up XYZ corporation that makes it so)?  

&quot;Car 54, are you out there?&quot;

Were CMO&#039;s with their puts calls, collars, butterflies, eagles and condors, and swaps really the best vehicle to repatriate all the money the blew through Walmart&#039;s doors to China in exchange for all this decline? 

All this to say that the computer is a tool (maybe like a super duper, power tool) that did not stop or change the schemes that have existed on Wall Street and across boarders long before Joe Kennedy got his, or Brown Brother&#039;s Union Banking Corporation was shut down.

Computers have made things bigger and faster, but VWAPs aside, there&#039;s ample evidence to suggest that very little has turned out to be more on the level or by the square.  

I&#039;m thinking it&#039;s kind of the baseline question here, and what Mr. Obama needs to sort out as he addresses the usual suspects at his $30,000 dollar dinner on Wall Street this week. 

He&#039;d better be quick about it. Soon there will be the stories about the growth (or not) of Christmas parties on Wall Street. Where will Lloyd and Jamie book their shin digs, what will they eat, drink, as most of America asks Obama, &quot;please Sir, I&#039;d like some more&quot;? 

I&#039;m sure Ronnie/Donnie Reagan/Regan had a plan for us after beating the Russians into prosperity. Maybe all we need is a good apologist like that Larry Kudlow on the TV, and the return of leverage to normal (Woodstock levels).  

Hell, I&#039;d love to have a good excuse to get my double breasted suits out storage and to reactivate the data plan on my Blackberry. I hear their going to make the buttons big enough for adult fingers, which would make it easy to login here at Baselinescenarios.com from the Netjet.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was about 3 when Austin Marx and the Wall Street Wiz kids were making headlines (Time Magazine) for using computers.  My father fixed his cars and became a friend.  And I eventually got to speak to him on his boat off Long Island, by phone, as I pitched him NYC Munis, 6 percent at par (&#8230; what? They were commission free!)</p>
<p>The role of computers and the history of technology is a fascinating topic to be sure, but if I had the time to sit in mom&#8217;s basement eating Cheetos with my CB radio and thinking about how things derailed since Louie Raneri&#8217;s CMOs got a stamp from Congress, I think I&#8217;d rather us it to interview, say &#8220;Trader&#8221; Victor Sperandeo (who started out as the personal accountant for Lehman&#8217;s partner/s), or maybe a fella like William Baumol, who really should get a Nobel prize despite of Paul Samuelson&#8217;s monopolistic textbook and the nephew&#8217;s backhand. </p>
<p>Even better&#8211; I&#8217;d hail Judge Richard Posner on my shortwave, to ask what makes the consumer a king at all costs (or what makes kings of the fine folks who head up XYZ corporation that makes it so)?  </p>
<p>&#8220;Car 54, are you out there?&#8221;</p>
<p>Were CMO&#8217;s with their puts calls, collars, butterflies, eagles and condors, and swaps really the best vehicle to repatriate all the money the blew through Walmart&#8217;s doors to China in exchange for all this decline? </p>
<p>All this to say that the computer is a tool (maybe like a super duper, power tool) that did not stop or change the schemes that have existed on Wall Street and across boarders long before Joe Kennedy got his, or Brown Brother&#8217;s Union Banking Corporation was shut down.</p>
<p>Computers have made things bigger and faster, but VWAPs aside, there&#8217;s ample evidence to suggest that very little has turned out to be more on the level or by the square.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;m thinking it&#8217;s kind of the baseline question here, and what Mr. Obama needs to sort out as he addresses the usual suspects at his $30,000 dollar dinner on Wall Street this week. </p>
<p>He&#8217;d better be quick about it. Soon there will be the stories about the growth (or not) of Christmas parties on Wall Street. Where will Lloyd and Jamie book their shin digs, what will they eat, drink, as most of America asks Obama, &#8220;please Sir, I&#8217;d like some more&#8221;? </p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure Ronnie/Donnie Reagan/Regan had a plan for us after beating the Russians into prosperity. Maybe all we need is a good apologist like that Larry Kudlow on the TV, and the return of leverage to normal (Woodstock levels).  </p>
<p>Hell, I&#8217;d love to have a good excuse to get my double breasted suits out storage and to reactivate the data plan on my Blackberry. I hear their going to make the buttons big enough for adult fingers, which would make it easy to login here at Baselinescenarios.com from the Netjet.</p>
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		<title>By: the maure</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Oct 2009 00:53:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I heard few people saying that the battles against cancer,  Aids and other diseases were lost because the smart college grads went to Wall Street instead of labs or universities. In retrospective, I would say, it was a good thing they did.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I heard few people saying that the battles against cancer,  Aids and other diseases were lost because the smart college grads went to Wall Street instead of labs or universities. In retrospective, I would say, it was a good thing they did.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric Hirschberg</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Eric Hirschberg]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Oct 2009 22:08:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I find the whole observation and argument to be stupid.

Financial Darwinism would naturally lead to &quot;brighter&quot; people self organizing to compete for capital. If one argues that true alpha can only exist because a market participant misprices a risk that can be offset be another, then it stands to reason that more and more complexity would be needed to confuse the participants into transacting risks under mispriced economies.
Increasingly complex packages of risk eventually become impossible to control as degrees of freedom and interdependencies balloon.
&quot;smart&quot; people didn&#039;t screw capitalism. Capitalism screwed capitalism. Financial Darwinism meanwhile is alive and well.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find the whole observation and argument to be stupid.</p>
<p>Financial Darwinism would naturally lead to &#8220;brighter&#8221; people self organizing to compete for capital. If one argues that true alpha can only exist because a market participant misprices a risk that can be offset be another, then it stands to reason that more and more complexity would be needed to confuse the participants into transacting risks under mispriced economies.<br />
Increasingly complex packages of risk eventually become impossible to control as degrees of freedom and interdependencies balloon.<br />
&#8220;smart&#8221; people didn&#8217;t screw capitalism. Capitalism screwed capitalism. Financial Darwinism meanwhile is alive and well.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Connor</title>
		<link>http://baselinescenario.com/2009/10/14/calvin-trillins-theory/#comment-30897</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Oct 2009 14:29:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The problem is not merely that those in power don&#039;t UNDERSTAND what is wrong with these ideas --say securitization.  They understood all right.  Some very smart mathematicians were paid to fly in from places like Stanford and TELL them what was wrong.

The problem is they didn&#039;t CARE.  They were making lots of money right now.  The future was somebody else&#039;s problem.  And of course, EMH justifies that point of view because &quot;all things work out for the best in the best of all possible markets&quot;.

Blech.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem is not merely that those in power don&#8217;t UNDERSTAND what is wrong with these ideas &#8211;say securitization.  They understood all right.  Some very smart mathematicians were paid to fly in from places like Stanford and TELL them what was wrong.</p>
<p>The problem is they didn&#8217;t CARE.  They were making lots of money right now.  The future was somebody else&#8217;s problem.  And of course, EMH justifies that point of view because &#8220;all things work out for the best in the best of all possible markets&#8221;.</p>
<p>Blech.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Connor</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tim Connor]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Oct 2009 14:24:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You know, when I was in graduate school, there were still a lot of leftist fools talking about Communism &quot;done right&quot;.

Now, holders of the &quot;quasi-religious&quot; (e.g. without empirical support) Efficient Market Hypothesis tell me the same thing.

So I&#039;ll ask you the same question I asked THOSE fools:

--How do you define &quot;done right&quot;?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know, when I was in graduate school, there were still a lot of leftist fools talking about Communism &#8220;done right&#8221;.</p>
<p>Now, holders of the &#8220;quasi-religious&#8221; (e.g. without empirical support) Efficient Market Hypothesis tell me the same thing.</p>
<p>So I&#8217;ll ask you the same question I asked THOSE fools:</p>
<p>&#8211;How do you define &#8220;done right&#8221;?</p>
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		<title>By: Silke</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Silke]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Oct 2009 10:38:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Good morning Speed
I had to sleep a night on your last comment - now I think I&#039;ve got it...:

I do not doubt a moment that there are lots and lots of admirable ideas on how to do things better out there - after all you are Americans - and again no irony intended.

But there seem to be great ideas that make it big without standardisation (MP3?) and others who don&#039;t. Here is Mark Levinson telling the fascinating story of how the container was invented and all the big firms went for it but each one had its own idea of what format/system would be best and so it didn&#039;t catch on big   for years and years. 
Then came the Vietnam war of all things and the military insisted on one format of container if one wanted to be in the business of supplying them. The industry complied and after a while we had globalization - the last one is from me and I am only half joking because without  a standardized shipping system a lot we are used to today wouldn&#039;t be possible. Also I guess that when the industry standardized lots and lots of brillant technical solutions went to the garbage bin but the economy profited (at least that&#039;s what they tell us)  Here with 19:11 is Levinson telling the story himself - you can also find him with a long book talk at UCTV
http://itunes.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewPodcast?i=19687458&amp;id=265678936
now the probably wonderfully efficient and kind projects, concerned medics have come up, will not take off by themselves without standardization/synchronisation and yes standardization will kill a lot of very good ideas. The skill of legislation will be to find a balance that leaves small wiggling rooms in which ideas can be developed and maybe implemented (which is difficult because it is the same wiggling rooms that open a system up to fraud). 

When the computer was new there was a long time when the free lance translators I sent orders to all fought tooth and nail for a competitor program to Microsoft Word. They lost and their beloved and at least for their purposes superior program vanished because compatibility with Word never came up to a level a big customer like us needed (chemical symbols). Therefore I think that even if some of your wonderful programs would hit it big they would still have the problem to make themselves compatible so people moving from one end to the other of the US (the economy is demanding the &quot;mobile&quot; &quot;flexible&quot; worker isn&#039;t it?) can remain with what they are used to and even take it with them to India should they be told that it is that or nothing.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good morning Speed<br />
I had to sleep a night on your last comment &#8211; now I think I&#8217;ve got it&#8230;:</p>
<p>I do not doubt a moment that there are lots and lots of admirable ideas on how to do things better out there &#8211; after all you are Americans &#8211; and again no irony intended.</p>
<p>But there seem to be great ideas that make it big without standardisation (MP3?) and others who don&#8217;t. Here is Mark Levinson telling the fascinating story of how the container was invented and all the big firms went for it but each one had its own idea of what format/system would be best and so it didn&#8217;t catch on big   for years and years.<br />
Then came the Vietnam war of all things and the military insisted on one format of container if one wanted to be in the business of supplying them. The industry complied and after a while we had globalization &#8211; the last one is from me and I am only half joking because without  a standardized shipping system a lot we are used to today wouldn&#8217;t be possible. Also I guess that when the industry standardized lots and lots of brillant technical solutions went to the garbage bin but the economy profited (at least that&#8217;s what they tell us)  Here with 19:11 is Levinson telling the story himself &#8211; you can also find him with a long book talk at UCTV<br />
<a href="http://itunes.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewPodcast?i=19687458&#038;id=265678936" rel="nofollow">http://itunes.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewPodcast?i=19687458&#038;id=265678936</a><br />
now the probably wonderfully efficient and kind projects, concerned medics have come up, will not take off by themselves without standardization/synchronisation and yes standardization will kill a lot of very good ideas. The skill of legislation will be to find a balance that leaves small wiggling rooms in which ideas can be developed and maybe implemented (which is difficult because it is the same wiggling rooms that open a system up to fraud). </p>
<p>When the computer was new there was a long time when the free lance translators I sent orders to all fought tooth and nail for a competitor program to Microsoft Word. They lost and their beloved and at least for their purposes superior program vanished because compatibility with Word never came up to a level a big customer like us needed (chemical symbols). Therefore I think that even if some of your wonderful programs would hit it big they would still have the problem to make themselves compatible so people moving from one end to the other of the US (the economy is demanding the &#8220;mobile&#8221; &#8220;flexible&#8221; worker isn&#8217;t it?) can remain with what they are used to and even take it with them to India should they be told that it is that or nothing.</p>
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		<title>By: Uncle Billy Cunctator</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Oct 2009 09:02:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hope you get to see this.  

You spoke of the &quot;5 Families.&quot;  Is this just a cute reference to Lehman, Merrill, MS, etc.?  Is there any basis for this name that ties-in the 5 crime families?

In any case, you really need to stick around this blog.  We&#039;ve got some brain sucking to do, and you might even enjoy it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hope you get to see this.  </p>
<p>You spoke of the &#8220;5 Families.&#8221;  Is this just a cute reference to Lehman, Merrill, MS, etc.?  Is there any basis for this name that ties-in the 5 crime families?</p>
<p>In any case, you really need to stick around this blog.  We&#8217;ve got some brain sucking to do, and you might even enjoy it.</p>
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		<title>By: oops</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 17:58:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yes your theory is better. In the end it still comes down to someone at the top determining the leverage ratio. I really get tired of the &quot;blame the quants&quot; bit and Trillin just puts it in a new box with a new bow around it. Yawn. Yawn. Yawn.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes your theory is better. In the end it still comes down to someone at the top determining the leverage ratio. I really get tired of the &#8220;blame the quants&#8221; bit and Trillin just puts it in a new box with a new bow around it. Yawn. Yawn. Yawn.</p>
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		<title>By: Speed</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Speed]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 16:06:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Silke: I don&#039;t have a definition of &quot;overnight.&quot;
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Here are some things you might like to read. I won&#039;t put links here since the spam catchers often reject such posts.
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Search for &quot;Quad Graphics Health Care&quot; They operate their own (optional) health care unit which costs 20%-30% less than insurance based plans.

&quot;Nurse practitioners drug stores&quot; Quick service outpatient care clinics are being operated in drug stores, staffed by Nurse Practitioners which provide better service (walk-in, no appointment required) at lower cost for many things that don&#039;t require doctor -- ear infections, kids&#039; sore throats etc.

In the CBC Ideas Podcast of September 12, 2009 (Science at the Summit) one of the recipients of the Premier&#039;s Summit Awards said that the incidence of cancer can be reduced by 50% in Canada by eliminating five or so risk factors (as I recall) which include ... stop using tobacco, use alcohol in moderation, avoid sun (wear a hat, shirt and use sunscreen), proper diet and so forth. Imagine the annual savings in health care. Imagine how long it will take to change those behaviors. At least a generation.
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I&#039;ll let you find the behaviors that lead to diabetes.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Silke: I don&#8217;t have a definition of &#8220;overnight.&#8221;<br />
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Here are some things you might like to read. I won&#8217;t put links here since the spam catchers often reject such posts.<br />
.<br />
Search for &#8220;Quad Graphics Health Care&#8221; They operate their own (optional) health care unit which costs 20%-30% less than insurance based plans.</p>
<p>&#8220;Nurse practitioners drug stores&#8221; Quick service outpatient care clinics are being operated in drug stores, staffed by Nurse Practitioners which provide better service (walk-in, no appointment required) at lower cost for many things that don&#8217;t require doctor &#8212; ear infections, kids&#8217; sore throats etc.</p>
<p>In the CBC Ideas Podcast of September 12, 2009 (Science at the Summit) one of the recipients of the Premier&#8217;s Summit Awards said that the incidence of cancer can be reduced by 50% in Canada by eliminating five or so risk factors (as I recall) which include &#8230; stop using tobacco, use alcohol in moderation, avoid sun (wear a hat, shirt and use sunscreen), proper diet and so forth. Imagine the annual savings in health care. Imagine how long it will take to change those behaviors. At least a generation.<br />
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I&#8217;ll let you find the behaviors that lead to diabetes.</p>
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		<title>By: Silke</title>
		<link>http://baselinescenario.com/2009/10/14/calvin-trillins-theory/#comment-30755</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Silke]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 12:58:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[thank you Speed
I take it that 15 years in your book is &quot;overnight&quot;
and thank you for the reading recommendation but I love revelations like yours because we &quot;old Europeans&quot; get told by our claiming to be very savvy journalists that the US is a master in changing and adapting and implementing etc. etc. 
... and I keep claiming that you can&#039;t take systems from one country and force it on another but is that really an excuse for leaving so many people without adequate health cost coverage. If you want an class of uninsured and badly taken care of then say so openly but do not give me that &quot;it&#039;s too complicated for you to understand until you have read a pile of books stuff&quot;
I have been a paralegal both in personnel and in patents thus I certainly know about complicated stuff and therefore I say where there is a will there is a way - basta!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thank you Speed<br />
I take it that 15 years in your book is &#8220;overnight&#8221;<br />
and thank you for the reading recommendation but I love revelations like yours because we &#8220;old Europeans&#8221; get told by our claiming to be very savvy journalists that the US is a master in changing and adapting and implementing etc. etc.<br />
&#8230; and I keep claiming that you can&#8217;t take systems from one country and force it on another but is that really an excuse for leaving so many people without adequate health cost coverage. If you want an class of uninsured and badly taken care of then say so openly but do not give me that &#8220;it&#8217;s too complicated for you to understand until you have read a pile of books stuff&#8221;<br />
I have been a paralegal both in personnel and in patents thus I certainly know about complicated stuff and therefore I say where there is a will there is a way &#8211; basta!</p>
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		<title>By: Speed</title>
		<link>http://baselinescenario.com/2009/10/14/calvin-trillins-theory/#comment-30754</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 12:41:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Silke: You asked &quot;a question from afar&quot;
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Health Care in the US is large, complex, evolving entity with many powerful players. A forum like this tends to focus on headline items rather than taking a &quot;holistic&quot; or systemic view of how it has evolved, where it appears to be headed and the forces driving it. I recommend &quot;The Innovator&#039;s Prescription: A Disruptive Solution for Health Care&quot; by Clayton M. Christensen et al.
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There are businesses that provide high quality health care for their employees at a per person cost far below the national average. There are new ways to provide routine, non-complex health care at a lower per-visit or per-illness cost. There are ways to lower the cost of complex but routine diagnostic and treatment procedures. While Christensen and his co-authors catalogue these with examples of where they are working I don&#039;t hear about them in any of the Presidential or Congressional plans. In some cases there are legal barriers to widespread adoption.
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Automobiles didn&#039;t replace horses overnight. Personal computers didn&#039;t appear in the majority of households overnight. Jets didn&#039;t replace piston engines overnight. Healthcare won&#039;t be overhauled overnight either.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Silke: You asked &#8220;a question from afar&#8221;<br />
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Health Care in the US is large, complex, evolving entity with many powerful players. A forum like this tends to focus on headline items rather than taking a &#8220;holistic&#8221; or systemic view of how it has evolved, where it appears to be headed and the forces driving it. I recommend &#8220;The Innovator&#8217;s Prescription: A Disruptive Solution for Health Care&#8221; by Clayton M. Christensen et al.<br />
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There are businesses that provide high quality health care for their employees at a per person cost far below the national average. There are new ways to provide routine, non-complex health care at a lower per-visit or per-illness cost. There are ways to lower the cost of complex but routine diagnostic and treatment procedures. While Christensen and his co-authors catalogue these with examples of where they are working I don&#8217;t hear about them in any of the Presidential or Congressional plans. In some cases there are legal barriers to widespread adoption.<br />
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Automobiles didn&#8217;t replace horses overnight. Personal computers didn&#8217;t appear in the majority of households overnight. Jets didn&#8217;t replace piston engines overnight. Healthcare won&#8217;t be overhauled overnight either.</p>
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		<title>By: Silke</title>
		<link>http://baselinescenario.com/2009/10/14/calvin-trillins-theory/#comment-30749</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Silke]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 07:14:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Speed
a question from afar:
when did HillaryCare get busted? 
I assume since then &quot;free enterprise&quot; with all its participants with all its mighty brain power involved with all its ingenity and creativity has been busy at reforming getting health care costs covered in a way conducive to human dignity?
After all that&#039;s what they are supposed to be good and efficient, superior and unbeatable at, isn&#039;t it? Or can it be that government programs like Medicare and Medicaid have so distorted the field that even the most brillant expert can&#039;t come up with a proposal before they are eliminated?

Another possibility is it hasn&#039;t happened because they need more time as it undoubtably is an extremely &quot;complex&quot; matter which has to be carefully considered, reviewed and looked at from all angles.

Please all you Yakkis-ses out there keep in mind that some more than 15 years is nothing but a blink if looked at from a historian&#039;s view point. And from a historian&#039;s viewpoint I might add it would be easiest and best to resurrect the extended family with all its virtues not least the one that clans traditionally took care of their sick members without any government interference whatsoever - also I hear that Schamans are quite effective with some ailments and the rest could be efficiently taken care of by automated call centers.

So, Speed, how much longer do you estimate the market players will need to come up with something so brillant that the US shows itself  to be also in this respect the shining beacon for the world as it is without doubt capable of doing in a lot of other fields - and yes I am being very serious on this point with absolutely no tongue in cheek. 
And the chances could be very good for that because from what I have learned by being on this blog newly constructed systems have a good chance at being a lot better for quite some time than old ones which by necessity have to have been patched up and amended again and again but nevertheless like ours has survived  two world wars and still takes good care of the patients they are supposed to serve.

Oh and btw can it be that your American doctors self-treat and do not consult a colleague as you claim because they find it too costly to see a doctor?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Speed<br />
a question from afar:<br />
when did HillaryCare get busted?<br />
I assume since then &#8220;free enterprise&#8221; with all its participants with all its mighty brain power involved with all its ingenity and creativity has been busy at reforming getting health care costs covered in a way conducive to human dignity?<br />
After all that&#8217;s what they are supposed to be good and efficient, superior and unbeatable at, isn&#8217;t it? Or can it be that government programs like Medicare and Medicaid have so distorted the field that even the most brillant expert can&#8217;t come up with a proposal before they are eliminated?</p>
<p>Another possibility is it hasn&#8217;t happened because they need more time as it undoubtably is an extremely &#8220;complex&#8221; matter which has to be carefully considered, reviewed and looked at from all angles.</p>
<p>Please all you Yakkis-ses out there keep in mind that some more than 15 years is nothing but a blink if looked at from a historian&#8217;s view point. And from a historian&#8217;s viewpoint I might add it would be easiest and best to resurrect the extended family with all its virtues not least the one that clans traditionally took care of their sick members without any government interference whatsoever &#8211; also I hear that Schamans are quite effective with some ailments and the rest could be efficiently taken care of by automated call centers.</p>
<p>So, Speed, how much longer do you estimate the market players will need to come up with something so brillant that the US shows itself  to be also in this respect the shining beacon for the world as it is without doubt capable of doing in a lot of other fields &#8211; and yes I am being very serious on this point with absolutely no tongue in cheek.<br />
And the chances could be very good for that because from what I have learned by being on this blog newly constructed systems have a good chance at being a lot better for quite some time than old ones which by necessity have to have been patched up and amended again and again but nevertheless like ours has survived  two world wars and still takes good care of the patients they are supposed to serve.</p>
<p>Oh and btw can it be that your American doctors self-treat and do not consult a colleague as you claim because they find it too costly to see a doctor?</p>
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		<title>By: Speed</title>
		<link>http://baselinescenario.com/2009/10/14/calvin-trillins-theory/#comment-30733</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Speed]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 23:48:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yakkis, you said: &quot;Here’s some reality for you speed ... &quot;
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Yakkis! Take a pill. Relax. The topic here is not &quot;Does the US Health Care System Need Improvement&quot; -- every system can be improved. The topic is &quot;Can Congress and the President Improve the US Health Care System.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yakkis, you said: &#8220;Here’s some reality for you speed &#8230; &#8221;<br />
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Yakkis! Take a pill. Relax. The topic here is not &#8220;Does the US Health Care System Need Improvement&#8221; &#8212; every system can be improved. The topic is &#8220;Can Congress and the President Improve the US Health Care System.&#8221;</p>
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