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		<title>By: Silke</title>
		<link>http://baselinescenario.com/2009/10/09/whats-wrong-with-a-phone-call/#comment-30890</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Oct 2009 13:06:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dutch or even the closely related Niederdeutsch at the Thüringen/Saxonian border where Geithner&#039;s name came from? could be, but

I think it is a rather fertile area there and I think in such areas they do not have goats except for a few as toys for children http://www.oel-bild.de/Drei-Kinder-mit-Ziegenbock-und-Wagen.htm and maybe poor people had some also but herds?
- also I like goats - beasts with strange eyes and as baby goats really delicious food]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dutch or even the closely related Niederdeutsch at the Thüringen/Saxonian border where Geithner&#8217;s name came from? could be, but</p>
<p>I think it is a rather fertile area there and I think in such areas they do not have goats except for a few as toys for children <a href="http://www.oel-bild.de/Drei-Kinder-mit-Ziegenbock-und-Wagen.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.oel-bild.de/Drei-Kinder-mit-Ziegenbock-und-Wagen.htm</a> and maybe poor people had some also but herds?<br />
- also I like goats &#8211; beasts with strange eyes and as baby goats really delicious food</p>
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		<title>By: Uncle Billy Cunctator</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Oct 2009 07:51:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Geit in Dutch is &quot;goat&quot;

So &quot;goatherd&quot;?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Geit in Dutch is &#8220;goat&#8221;</p>
<p>So &#8220;goatherd&#8221;?</p>
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		<title>By: b.</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Oct 2009 23:11:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have no problem with individuals that are not government appointees or employees getting privileged access. All I require is that these contacts are recorded, and that the records are released to the public immediately.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have no problem with individuals that are not government appointees or employees getting privileged access. All I require is that these contacts are recorded, and that the records are released to the public immediately.</p>
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		<title>By: anti_fascist_freedom_fighter</title>
		<link>http://baselinescenario.com/2009/10/09/whats-wrong-with-a-phone-call/#comment-30196</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Oct 2009 16:54:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Excellent response. I don&#039;t know what laws Geithner may have broken, but it seems we&#039;re living in a world where rules only apply to the meek and powerless.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent response. I don&#8217;t know what laws Geithner may have broken, but it seems we&#8217;re living in a world where rules only apply to the meek and powerless.</p>
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		<title>By: 1 Kings</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Oct 2009 13:58:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Belated thanks Ted K. for posting the article. It&#039;s the smoking gun.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Belated thanks Ted K. for posting the article. It&#8217;s the smoking gun.</p>
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		<title>By: sophie</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Oct 2009 04:28:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It is really unfortunate that you go to all the trouble to print your article here james, then defile it with some bizarre statement , &quot;and no one is saying he is doing anything illegal&quot;.

If this man, the treasury secretary is not &quot;supposed&quot; to act with the same good faith as a fiduciary for the country, then what is his job?  And, INDEED, LETTING IN THE BANK LOBBY VOICE, is not only a conflict of interest, but it is evidence of who is buying elections, positioning their soldiers in treasury, and getting laws passed which in effect legalize criminality, like revoking Glass Steagall and letting Wallstreet gamble wtih depositors money,and bailing out entities that packaged, bought AAA ratings, then sold crap to the whole world? In other words, the wallstreet/washington complex that purchases all elections and top positions then legalizes criminality...and you take the time to say that no one is saying anyone is doing anything illegal? In good conscience, why aren&#039;t you saying it james?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is really unfortunate that you go to all the trouble to print your article here james, then defile it with some bizarre statement , &#8220;and no one is saying he is doing anything illegal&#8221;.</p>
<p>If this man, the treasury secretary is not &#8220;supposed&#8221; to act with the same good faith as a fiduciary for the country, then what is his job?  And, INDEED, LETTING IN THE BANK LOBBY VOICE, is not only a conflict of interest, but it is evidence of who is buying elections, positioning their soldiers in treasury, and getting laws passed which in effect legalize criminality, like revoking Glass Steagall and letting Wallstreet gamble wtih depositors money,and bailing out entities that packaged, bought AAA ratings, then sold crap to the whole world? In other words, the wallstreet/washington complex that purchases all elections and top positions then legalizes criminality&#8230;and you take the time to say that no one is saying anyone is doing anything illegal? In good conscience, why aren&#8217;t you saying it james?</p>
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		<title>By: tippygolden</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Oct 2009 01:19:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What is wrong with a phone call? Nothing. At this point there is no public information what was said in phone conversations between Geithner and the CEOs of Goldman Sachs, JP Morgan Chase and Citigroup. Just speculation.

However, given that these phone conversations involved a transfer of $700 billion from the public treasury to the private banking system, I would assume the taxpayer has a democratic right to know what was discussed.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What is wrong with a phone call? Nothing. At this point there is no public information what was said in phone conversations between Geithner and the CEOs of Goldman Sachs, JP Morgan Chase and Citigroup. Just speculation.</p>
<p>However, given that these phone conversations involved a transfer of $700 billion from the public treasury to the private banking system, I would assume the taxpayer has a democratic right to know what was discussed.</p>
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		<title>By: John F. McGowan</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Oct 2009 22:12:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I repeat my comment regarding the previous post.

Yes, it is very frustrating that top bankers have easy access to the Treasury Secretary.  However, this is not new and surely dates back as far as Alexander Hamilton and Robert Morris.

Rather, the concerned including Simon Johnson and James Kwak should focus on documenting and demonstrating the specific dollar (and other) cost of these banking policies.  The esoteric financial terms, the sophisticated mathematical models that don&#039;t work, and so forth act as a smokescreen to obscure the diversion of trillions of dollars from productive sectors of the US and global economy, to the detriment of nearly everyone.

What has happened to the putative &quot;toxic assets&quot; since the PPIP plan was enacted six months or so ago?

Are the giant banks such as Goldman Sachs, JP Morgan Chase, Citigroup and so forth really solvent?  If they are solvent, why did they need TARP?  Have they transferred their bad loans to the taxpayer, and, if so, how?

What securities has the Federal Reserve acquired, for how much, and what are they really worth?  What is the real value of the underlying mortgages, credit cards, and so forth pooled in these securities?

These are some of the questions that should be answered and the answers repeated clearly over and over again.

Is capital investment and R&amp;D declining sharply from its already anemic levels during the housing bubble?

The appeal must be to the specific interests of the general public, businesses, and others, most of whom surely do not benefit from these policies.

John]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I repeat my comment regarding the previous post.</p>
<p>Yes, it is very frustrating that top bankers have easy access to the Treasury Secretary.  However, this is not new and surely dates back as far as Alexander Hamilton and Robert Morris.</p>
<p>Rather, the concerned including Simon Johnson and James Kwak should focus on documenting and demonstrating the specific dollar (and other) cost of these banking policies.  The esoteric financial terms, the sophisticated mathematical models that don&#8217;t work, and so forth act as a smokescreen to obscure the diversion of trillions of dollars from productive sectors of the US and global economy, to the detriment of nearly everyone.</p>
<p>What has happened to the putative &#8220;toxic assets&#8221; since the PPIP plan was enacted six months or so ago?</p>
<p>Are the giant banks such as Goldman Sachs, JP Morgan Chase, Citigroup and so forth really solvent?  If they are solvent, why did they need TARP?  Have they transferred their bad loans to the taxpayer, and, if so, how?</p>
<p>What securities has the Federal Reserve acquired, for how much, and what are they really worth?  What is the real value of the underlying mortgages, credit cards, and so forth pooled in these securities?</p>
<p>These are some of the questions that should be answered and the answers repeated clearly over and over again.</p>
<p>Is capital investment and R&amp;D declining sharply from its already anemic levels during the housing bubble?</p>
<p>The appeal must be to the specific interests of the general public, businesses, and others, most of whom surely do not benefit from these policies.</p>
<p>John</p>
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		<title>By: carol</title>
		<link>http://baselinescenario.com/2009/10/09/whats-wrong-with-a-phone-call/#comment-30147</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Oct 2009 21:00:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;So I say to Geithner: Stop.&quot;

No use saying it.... he is not listening.

See e.g this graph showing the wealth disparity in the US, expressed as the % of national income the upper 0.01% take home. It reached a peak in 1928 at 5%. If I recall correctly, Galbraith in his book about the great depression argued that this peak disparity partly contributed to the 1929 crash.

The wealth disparity was corrected, the US had a solid middle class, President Carter warned of over-consumption, was not re-elected, and we got a deficits-don&#039;t-matter president. The wealth disparity has increased to even 6% in 2007!

PLEASE NOTE: In contrast to the previous depression, this time the wealth disparity does NOT get corrected, but grows even bigger, thanks to the wealth transfer -- or more correctly stated: theft!! -- from the middle class to those upper 0.01% income takers.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_H2DePAZe2gA/StEZCIZ4fFI/AAAAAAAAJ_U/G7ePCscZLjE/s1600-h/WealthDisparity_saez07.png]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;So I say to Geithner: Stop.&#8221;</p>
<p>No use saying it&#8230;. he is not listening.</p>
<p>See e.g this graph showing the wealth disparity in the US, expressed as the % of national income the upper 0.01% take home. It reached a peak in 1928 at 5%. If I recall correctly, Galbraith in his book about the great depression argued that this peak disparity partly contributed to the 1929 crash.</p>
<p>The wealth disparity was corrected, the US had a solid middle class, President Carter warned of over-consumption, was not re-elected, and we got a deficits-don&#8217;t-matter president. The wealth disparity has increased to even 6% in 2007!</p>
<p>PLEASE NOTE: In contrast to the previous depression, this time the wealth disparity does NOT get corrected, but grows even bigger, thanks to the wealth transfer &#8212; or more correctly stated: theft!! &#8212; from the middle class to those upper 0.01% income takers.</p>
<p><a href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_H2DePAZe2gA/StEZCIZ4fFI/AAAAAAAAJ_U/G7ePCscZLjE/s1600-h/WealthDisparity_saez07.png" rel="nofollow">http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_H2DePAZe2gA/StEZCIZ4fFI/AAAAAAAAJ_U/G7ePCscZLjE/s1600-h/WealthDisparity_saez07.png</a></p>
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		<title>By: Paul Handover</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Paul Handover]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Oct 2009 20:01:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Simon/James, second what NB said.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Simon/James, second what NB said.</p>
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		<title>By: notabanker</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[notabanker]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Oct 2009 19:13:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Moyer session really brings out the problem fundamentals.  Simon and Ohio rep Marcy Kaptur appear to say it is too late to fix and  Congress is bought and paid for. 

Is is correct to believe that the properly fixed system can be accurately defined and described?  Can this also require taxpayers money and assets be recovered from the villains and also their prosecution?  If so would a step forward be to publicize the fix recipe and hammer this at every communicating opportunity so it cannot be ignored?  Should it be fowarded to every media jounalist, representative (state and federal) Be the subject of questions to the president?  Should prevarication and evasion be subject to &#039;why no action&#039; questions? 

In fact can we have a post  addressing this from Simon and Janmes please?

I&#039;m sure glad I can put this request to all you banking experts.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Moyer session really brings out the problem fundamentals.  Simon and Ohio rep Marcy Kaptur appear to say it is too late to fix and  Congress is bought and paid for. </p>
<p>Is is correct to believe that the properly fixed system can be accurately defined and described?  Can this also require taxpayers money and assets be recovered from the villains and also their prosecution?  If so would a step forward be to publicize the fix recipe and hammer this at every communicating opportunity so it cannot be ignored?  Should it be fowarded to every media jounalist, representative (state and federal) Be the subject of questions to the president?  Should prevarication and evasion be subject to &#8216;why no action&#8217; questions? </p>
<p>In fact can we have a post  addressing this from Simon and Janmes please?</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure glad I can put this request to all you banking experts.</p>
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		<title>By: Silke</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Silke]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Oct 2009 18:05:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[don&#039;t hope for too much btraven
ever since the Italians made such a mess out of reigning in protesters at one of these events (they even killed one) these international get togethers are under heavy heavy protection - look up the one where Bush massaged Merkel and you&#039;ll see that the cordonning it off is standard by now]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>don&#8217;t hope for too much btraven<br />
ever since the Italians made such a mess out of reigning in protesters at one of these events (they even killed one) these international get togethers are under heavy heavy protection &#8211; look up the one where Bush massaged Merkel and you&#8217;ll see that the cordonning it off is standard by now</p>
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		<title>By: btraven</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Oct 2009 17:44:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The protests re G20 in Pittsburgh gives me some hope. The government brought out the &quot;big guns&quot; against this protest. This is a sign TPTB expect more to come. 

We may very well be headed for a civil war. I think I&#039;d be a bit afraid if I was a cog in the government or financial sector - &quot;guilty&quot; or not, they may become targets for the outrage and desperation of &quot;the people.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The protests re G20 in Pittsburgh gives me some hope. The government brought out the &#8220;big guns&#8221; against this protest. This is a sign TPTB expect more to come. </p>
<p>We may very well be headed for a civil war. I think I&#8217;d be a bit afraid if I was a cog in the government or financial sector &#8211; &#8220;guilty&#8221; or not, they may become targets for the outrage and desperation of &#8220;the people.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: btraven</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Oct 2009 17:34:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Vegas Quixote: I like the collection of info on your site.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vegas Quixote: I like the collection of info on your site.</p>
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		<title>By: Silke</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Silke]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Oct 2009 16:19:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[may it be that you admire this guy? if yes, here&#039;s more for you
http://itunes.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewPodcast?i=61039204&amp;id=251447071
if so, in my book he says in this interview in equal measure weird (fast and loose with the facts) stuff as sound stuff
and to add a bit more info on Obama&#039;s economic team here is Cornel West on Larry Summers - as much as I fell instantly and irrevocably in love with the first black guy I ever saw and am thus guilty of positive discrimination I don&#039;t think I could stand much of this brothering stuff
http://itunes.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewPodcast?i=61475860&amp;id=251447071]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>may it be that you admire this guy? if yes, here&#8217;s more for you<br />
<a href="http://itunes.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewPodcast?i=61039204&#038;id=251447071" rel="nofollow">http://itunes.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewPodcast?i=61039204&#038;id=251447071</a><br />
if so, in my book he says in this interview in equal measure weird (fast and loose with the facts) stuff as sound stuff<br />
and to add a bit more info on Obama&#8217;s economic team here is Cornel West on Larry Summers &#8211; as much as I fell instantly and irrevocably in love with the first black guy I ever saw and am thus guilty of positive discrimination I don&#8217;t think I could stand much of this brothering stuff<br />
<a href="http://itunes.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewPodcast?i=61475860&#038;id=251447071" rel="nofollow">http://itunes.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewPodcast?i=61475860&#038;id=251447071</a></p>
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