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		<title>By: MPS</title>
		<link>http://baselinescenario.com/2009/09/06/the-myth-of-consumer-choice/#comment-27414</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2009 18:52:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;But the fact remains that for many people, the health savings account will run out; actuarially speaking, if $1.7 million is the average and other things do not change, then exactly half of all people will run out of money.&quot;

If 1.7million is the average, and not the median, it is not exactly half. I imagine it is skewed heavily on the high end.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;But the fact remains that for many people, the health savings account will run out; actuarially speaking, if $1.7 million is the average and other things do not change, then exactly half of all people will run out of money.&#8221;</p>
<p>If 1.7million is the average, and not the median, it is not exactly half. I imagine it is skewed heavily on the high end.</p>
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		<title>By: Carson Gross</title>
		<link>http://baselinescenario.com/2009/09/06/the-myth-of-consumer-choice/#comment-27141</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Carson Gross]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2009 18:38:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Welfare, as defined in that clause, has nothing to do with welfare in the modern sense, and I have a feeling you know that fact.  A brief look back at any of the arguments during the constitutional convention will make that clear, if not.  

Why bother with the 10th amendment at all, if welfare were defined in such an expansive way?  It would be like saying &quot;The Federal Government can do anything.  The Federal Government cannot do anything that the previous sentence does not explicitly allow.&quot;  Such an interpretation fails fourth grade logic.

Again, the price of not being ruled by Alabamans is allowing Alabamans to live as they see fit.

Cheers,
Carson]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Welfare, as defined in that clause, has nothing to do with welfare in the modern sense, and I have a feeling you know that fact.  A brief look back at any of the arguments during the constitutional convention will make that clear, if not.  </p>
<p>Why bother with the 10th amendment at all, if welfare were defined in such an expansive way?  It would be like saying &#8220;The Federal Government can do anything.  The Federal Government cannot do anything that the previous sentence does not explicitly allow.&#8221;  Such an interpretation fails fourth grade logic.</p>
<p>Again, the price of not being ruled by Alabamans is allowing Alabamans to live as they see fit.</p>
<p>Cheers,<br />
Carson</p>
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		<title>By: Rockfish</title>
		<link>http://baselinescenario.com/2009/09/06/the-myth-of-consumer-choice/#comment-27137</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2009 18:12:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Great post James. 

You are absolutely right. If I were in my twenties and single, I would probably have a crush on Chana, too!

(Sorry, just needed to lighten things up around here a little)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post James. </p>
<p>You are absolutely right. If I were in my twenties and single, I would probably have a crush on Chana, too!</p>
<p>(Sorry, just needed to lighten things up around here a little)</p>
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		<title>By: Agoraphobic Kleptomaniac</title>
		<link>http://baselinescenario.com/2009/09/06/the-myth-of-consumer-choice/#comment-27132</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2009 17:32:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That 37th WHO ranking is based both on quality of care, and fairness of the system, measuring several different metrics.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That 37th WHO ranking is based both on quality of care, and fairness of the system, measuring several different metrics.</p>
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		<title>By: Barb</title>
		<link>http://baselinescenario.com/2009/09/06/the-myth-of-consumer-choice/#comment-27127</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2009 16:46:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[1.  The market will not produce quality without regulation and without the emergence of institutions that both systematically evaluate quality and have a charter that requires distribution of information within the medical profession:
  
A. Information disparity is a significant barrier.  For example, there are two surgical technologies, the gamma knife and the cyber knife. One is better for fine reductions and the other for gross reductions. A patient may feel that they have been saved (still alive) and not realize that they might have kept more physical function if they had received treatment with the other technology.

B.  Medical quality can be ephemeral; advertising can mislead and spur unnecessary demand; and patients are often times incapable of judging quality at other than a gross level--or worse, make decisions based on non-meaningful factors like private rooms, good hospital food, and the charming personal manner of the provider. 

C.  Medical professionals are unable to voluntarily regulate their own conduct.  Oftentimes, they would not refer a patient to a particular provider because they know that one surgery is likely to become three surgeries because a particular surgeon is incompetent. Rarely is an incompetent provider stripped of his/her license. Self-referral to provider-owned technology is responsible for the proliferation of MRI, CAT, PET and other high dollar diagnostic procedures. We are becoming an irradiated nation at the hands of the very people who have pledged to do no harm.

D. 100,000 people a year die unnecessarily from medical care.  On the other hand, if a plane or train crashes or a wall falls on a bricklayer, there are full blown investigations to identify root causes; corrective action is mandated; and behavior changes.  Where is the medical version of NTSB?  OSHA?

2.  Social goods cannot be distributed upon the basis of ability to pay.  

A.  A hemophiliac child needs RH factor and it may cost between $600K and $800K per year to keep the child alive.  It is absurd to insure a certainty: it only adds to the cost (profit margin, risk charges, reserve accumulations). Such medical &quot;certainties&quot; should be budgeted for and serve as a learning opportunity to see what works best to improve the length and quality of life of the patient.  Only the best and brightest of the medical community should serve such patients.

B.  If we remove the expense related to end of life care, serious life-threatening illnesses, and conditions which require very specific medical expertise from the cost of health insurance, we will substantially reduce its cost.  And, we make it possible for people to elect how much coverage they need and want to pay for.  The cost of the removed care can be paid for via a payroll deduction.  Essentially we could establish a national risk pool for serious, catastrophic illnesses and let insurers handle the less risky, less certain health care events.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1.  The market will not produce quality without regulation and without the emergence of institutions that both systematically evaluate quality and have a charter that requires distribution of information within the medical profession:</p>
<p>A. Information disparity is a significant barrier.  For example, there are two surgical technologies, the gamma knife and the cyber knife. One is better for fine reductions and the other for gross reductions. A patient may feel that they have been saved (still alive) and not realize that they might have kept more physical function if they had received treatment with the other technology.</p>
<p>B.  Medical quality can be ephemeral; advertising can mislead and spur unnecessary demand; and patients are often times incapable of judging quality at other than a gross level&#8211;or worse, make decisions based on non-meaningful factors like private rooms, good hospital food, and the charming personal manner of the provider. </p>
<p>C.  Medical professionals are unable to voluntarily regulate their own conduct.  Oftentimes, they would not refer a patient to a particular provider because they know that one surgery is likely to become three surgeries because a particular surgeon is incompetent. Rarely is an incompetent provider stripped of his/her license. Self-referral to provider-owned technology is responsible for the proliferation of MRI, CAT, PET and other high dollar diagnostic procedures. We are becoming an irradiated nation at the hands of the very people who have pledged to do no harm.</p>
<p>D. 100,000 people a year die unnecessarily from medical care.  On the other hand, if a plane or train crashes or a wall falls on a bricklayer, there are full blown investigations to identify root causes; corrective action is mandated; and behavior changes.  Where is the medical version of NTSB?  OSHA?</p>
<p>2.  Social goods cannot be distributed upon the basis of ability to pay.  </p>
<p>A.  A hemophiliac child needs RH factor and it may cost between $600K and $800K per year to keep the child alive.  It is absurd to insure a certainty: it only adds to the cost (profit margin, risk charges, reserve accumulations). Such medical &#8220;certainties&#8221; should be budgeted for and serve as a learning opportunity to see what works best to improve the length and quality of life of the patient.  Only the best and brightest of the medical community should serve such patients.</p>
<p>B.  If we remove the expense related to end of life care, serious life-threatening illnesses, and conditions which require very specific medical expertise from the cost of health insurance, we will substantially reduce its cost.  And, we make it possible for people to elect how much coverage they need and want to pay for.  The cost of the removed care can be paid for via a payroll deduction.  Essentially we could establish a national risk pool for serious, catastrophic illnesses and let insurers handle the less risky, less certain health care events.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Blandford</title>
		<link>http://baselinescenario.com/2009/09/06/the-myth-of-consumer-choice/#comment-27126</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Robert Blandford]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2009 16:29:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Some may be interested in my bipartisan approach to health care. It can be found at:

www.plan.bipartisanhealthplan.com

It has some features in common with the Wyden-Bennett bill but is more radical, involving government supplemented Health Funding Accounts and private guaranteed-renewable health policies from birth to death. These replace all other government health plans, including Medicare, Medicaid and SCHIP.

The approach, by design, solves the perplexing problems inherent in pre-existing conditions, guaranteed issue, community rating, and market competition which have been on view in town hall meetings this August and which have frustrated politicians and citizens of both parties.

It also has elements in common with David Goldhill&#039;s recent article in the Atlantic &quot;How American Health Care Killed my Father&quot;. 

http://www.theatlantic.com/doc/200909/health-care

Goldhill and I have in common the facts that we are not health care professionals and were brought to the field by the real-life experiences of relatives.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some may be interested in my bipartisan approach to health care. It can be found at:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.plan.bipartisanhealthplan.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.plan.bipartisanhealthplan.com</a></p>
<p>It has some features in common with the Wyden-Bennett bill but is more radical, involving government supplemented Health Funding Accounts and private guaranteed-renewable health policies from birth to death. These replace all other government health plans, including Medicare, Medicaid and SCHIP.</p>
<p>The approach, by design, solves the perplexing problems inherent in pre-existing conditions, guaranteed issue, community rating, and market competition which have been on view in town hall meetings this August and which have frustrated politicians and citizens of both parties.</p>
<p>It also has elements in common with David Goldhill&#8217;s recent article in the Atlantic &#8220;How American Health Care Killed my Father&#8221;. </p>
<p><a href="http://www.theatlantic.com/doc/200909/health-care" rel="nofollow">http://www.theatlantic.com/doc/200909/health-care</a></p>
<p>Goldhill and I have in common the facts that we are not health care professionals and were brought to the field by the real-life experiences of relatives.</p>
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		<title>By: Silke</title>
		<link>http://baselinescenario.com/2009/09/06/the-myth-of-consumer-choice/#comment-27125</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Silke]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2009 16:17:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;motivation to reduce consumption&quot;

yes, but it should not pitch the doctor against the patient 
- what I relaize like about our system since now you have informed me how good I have it, is this feeling that the doctor and I are together in a more or less tacit agreement that in order to get me well we are entitled to in get out of the system all that&#039;s possible. The system is allowed to fight back hindered by all the other actors in a democracy like lobby groups strikes willful negligence etc. To date we never had a demo of patients in favour of doctors&#039; incomes which they claim has been too much cut down. Maybe if more of us would read blogs like that it wouldn&#039;t take long to come about.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;motivation to reduce consumption&#8221;</p>
<p>yes, but it should not pitch the doctor against the patient<br />
- what I relaize like about our system since now you have informed me how good I have it, is this feeling that the doctor and I are together in a more or less tacit agreement that in order to get me well we are entitled to in get out of the system all that&#8217;s possible. The system is allowed to fight back hindered by all the other actors in a democracy like lobby groups strikes willful negligence etc. To date we never had a demo of patients in favour of doctors&#8217; incomes which they claim has been too much cut down. Maybe if more of us would read blogs like that it wouldn&#8217;t take long to come about.</p>
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		<title>By: StatsGuy</title>
		<link>http://baselinescenario.com/2009/09/06/the-myth-of-consumer-choice/#comment-27123</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[StatsGuy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2009 15:57:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Fundamentally, after you cut through everything, there is a tradeoff between social efficiency and social equity.  Arguing that this tradeoff does not exist is virtually impossible.  The USSR fell, and China of today is not Mao&#039;s dream.  We are better off facing the tradeoff, and deciding how much social justice we want...  and how much we are really willing and able to pay for it.

There are two flaws with the fully privatized healthcare arguments, however, and they are the same problems our current system faces - Coverage and Costs.

First, as James raises, is the social equity issue.  Coverage.  It exists.  Period.  One function of social insurance is to insure people without regard to their genetic composition, etc.  This is not free, and it causes all sorts of incentive problems.

Just giving 1.7 million away to everyone neither does not achieve the social object, as James says.  It fails to meet the needs of the neediest, and gives a windfall to those who don&#039;t end up needing it.

Second, just because we accept that there are incentive problems does NOT mean that all efforts to use incentives to ration healthcare should focus on healthcare _consumers_.  A general principle of good incentive design is that incentives are aligned with desired outcomes, which requires that the incentives should impact those people with:

-- Information
-- Power to act
-- Who benefit/suffer from non-monetary results of the action (which cannot be redistributed)

The third of these means patients.  The former two argue for including providers.  And any real solution to our problem needs to provide incentives to both - it&#039;s going to be a hybrid system.  Finally, if we want to contain costs, then these incentives MUST include some motivation to reduce consumption.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fundamentally, after you cut through everything, there is a tradeoff between social efficiency and social equity.  Arguing that this tradeoff does not exist is virtually impossible.  The USSR fell, and China of today is not Mao&#8217;s dream.  We are better off facing the tradeoff, and deciding how much social justice we want&#8230;  and how much we are really willing and able to pay for it.</p>
<p>There are two flaws with the fully privatized healthcare arguments, however, and they are the same problems our current system faces &#8211; Coverage and Costs.</p>
<p>First, as James raises, is the social equity issue.  Coverage.  It exists.  Period.  One function of social insurance is to insure people without regard to their genetic composition, etc.  This is not free, and it causes all sorts of incentive problems.</p>
<p>Just giving 1.7 million away to everyone neither does not achieve the social object, as James says.  It fails to meet the needs of the neediest, and gives a windfall to those who don&#8217;t end up needing it.</p>
<p>Second, just because we accept that there are incentive problems does NOT mean that all efforts to use incentives to ration healthcare should focus on healthcare _consumers_.  A general principle of good incentive design is that incentives are aligned with desired outcomes, which requires that the incentives should impact those people with:</p>
<p>&#8211; Information<br />
&#8211; Power to act<br />
&#8211; Who benefit/suffer from non-monetary results of the action (which cannot be redistributed)</p>
<p>The third of these means patients.  The former two argue for including providers.  And any real solution to our problem needs to provide incentives to both &#8211; it&#8217;s going to be a hybrid system.  Finally, if we want to contain costs, then these incentives MUST include some motivation to reduce consumption.</p>
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		<title>By: Agoraphobic Kleptomaniac</title>
		<link>http://baselinescenario.com/2009/09/06/the-myth-of-consumer-choice/#comment-27117</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Agoraphobic Kleptomaniac]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2009 14:58:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[q wins the thread.  Perfect response.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>q wins the thread.  Perfect response.</p>
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		<title>By: Agoraphobic Kleptomaniac</title>
		<link>http://baselinescenario.com/2009/09/06/the-myth-of-consumer-choice/#comment-27116</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Agoraphobic Kleptomaniac]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2009 14:55:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s the great news slippage - CNN used to give in depth analysis of what the nightly news didn&#039;t have time to cover, and NPR was even more in depth than CNN, then you got the hour long focus programs that only looked at a single issue.

Now, the hour long focus programs are about celebrities, NPR has taken CNN&#039;s job, CNN spends most of it&#039;s day doing what Nightly news did (surface coverage accompanied by talking heads), and nightly news might have 2 stories that aren&#039;t Interest stories or celeb gossip, and those two stories are the 30,000ft view, barely addressing anything other than &quot;he said/she said&quot;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s the great news slippage &#8211; CNN used to give in depth analysis of what the nightly news didn&#8217;t have time to cover, and NPR was even more in depth than CNN, then you got the hour long focus programs that only looked at a single issue.</p>
<p>Now, the hour long focus programs are about celebrities, NPR has taken CNN&#8217;s job, CNN spends most of it&#8217;s day doing what Nightly news did (surface coverage accompanied by talking heads), and nightly news might have 2 stories that aren&#8217;t Interest stories or celeb gossip, and those two stories are the 30,000ft view, barely addressing anything other than &#8220;he said/she said&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Agoraphobic Kleptomaniac</title>
		<link>http://baselinescenario.com/2009/09/06/the-myth-of-consumer-choice/#comment-27114</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Agoraphobic Kleptomaniac]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2009 14:40:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Carson: Article 1, section 8:
&quot;Congress shall have power - To lay and collect taxes, duties, imposts and excises, to pay the debts and provide for the common defence and general welfare of the United States; but all duties, imposts and excises shall be uniform throughout the United States; &quot;

Amendment 10 is a catchall, and Article 1 section 8 seems to have addressed taxes and welfare across the nation.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Carson: Article 1, section 8:<br />
&#8220;Congress shall have power &#8211; To lay and collect taxes, duties, imposts and excises, to pay the debts and provide for the common defence and general welfare of the United States; but all duties, imposts and excises shall be uniform throughout the United States; &#8221;</p>
<p>Amendment 10 is a catchall, and Article 1 section 8 seems to have addressed taxes and welfare across the nation.</p>
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		<title>By: Agoraphobic Kleptomaniac</title>
		<link>http://baselinescenario.com/2009/09/06/the-myth-of-consumer-choice/#comment-27112</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Agoraphobic Kleptomaniac]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2009 14:27:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Well, a lot of the costs that the insured bear are almost certainly an indirect “tax” to support the uninsured. We simply don’t have a basis for understanding how much of the underlying costs for healthcare are pricing in care provided to the uninsured who ultimately do not pay.&quot;

And, additionally, the fact that most of that indirect &quot;tax&quot;, as you call it, is also being taken and given to shareholders, whenever profit is made, for most american insurance companies.  

Also, a major breakdown is that the &quot;uninsured who ultimately do not pay&quot; are NOT being taken care of.  yes, if you go into an emergency room dying, they will treat you and have to write it off (thanks to the 1986 law), but that&#039;s where the free-ride ends.  Any pills, referrals to other offices/specialists, or sickness that is not immediately life threating, does not have to be treated.  The poorest in this country are only saved from dying that moment, but are doomed to chronic illnesses and bankruptcy when more long-term diseases set in.  So we pay the most expensive (in theory, since most of the bill is written off for tax reasons) treatments for the sick, but never actually are forced to treat them for, say, Cancer, which can cost 1.4x what the average american earns every month.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Well, a lot of the costs that the insured bear are almost certainly an indirect “tax” to support the uninsured. We simply don’t have a basis for understanding how much of the underlying costs for healthcare are pricing in care provided to the uninsured who ultimately do not pay.&#8221;</p>
<p>And, additionally, the fact that most of that indirect &#8220;tax&#8221;, as you call it, is also being taken and given to shareholders, whenever profit is made, for most american insurance companies.  </p>
<p>Also, a major breakdown is that the &#8220;uninsured who ultimately do not pay&#8221; are NOT being taken care of.  yes, if you go into an emergency room dying, they will treat you and have to write it off (thanks to the 1986 law), but that&#8217;s where the free-ride ends.  Any pills, referrals to other offices/specialists, or sickness that is not immediately life threating, does not have to be treated.  The poorest in this country are only saved from dying that moment, but are doomed to chronic illnesses and bankruptcy when more long-term diseases set in.  So we pay the most expensive (in theory, since most of the bill is written off for tax reasons) treatments for the sick, but never actually are forced to treat them for, say, Cancer, which can cost 1.4x what the average american earns every month.</p>
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		<title>By: ella</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ella]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2009 14:21:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That is exactly what insurance companies are doing now.  Making treatment decisions based on what treatment they will pay for.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That is exactly what insurance companies are doing now.  Making treatment decisions based on what treatment they will pay for.</p>
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		<title>By: phil</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2009 13:54:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Somethings are too bad to be true and the US spending so much in healthcare and achieving so little may be an example of this. The US needs universal care, so it isn&#039;t my intention to defend the current level of expenditures and outcomes.  However, if &quot;accidental deaths&quot; are included in life expectancy calculations than lfe expectancy may not may not be a true indicator of healthcare results..
For instance, the US ranks #1 in motor vehicle deaths per 100000 people. But I&#039;m not sure if this is a healthcare issue. Same is true of homicides.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Somethings are too bad to be true and the US spending so much in healthcare and achieving so little may be an example of this. The US needs universal care, so it isn&#8217;t my intention to defend the current level of expenditures and outcomes.  However, if &#8220;accidental deaths&#8221; are included in life expectancy calculations than lfe expectancy may not may not be a true indicator of healthcare results..<br />
For instance, the US ranks #1 in motor vehicle deaths per 100000 people. But I&#8217;m not sure if this is a healthcare issue. Same is true of homicides.</p>
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		<title>By: Silke</title>
		<link>http://baselinescenario.com/2009/09/06/the-myth-of-consumer-choice/#comment-27096</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2009 12:02:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Anne
I liked this education of the doctors!!! towards treating their patients as responsible adults from the start very much - the doctor still recommends and tells you, if there is an alternative but mostly they have become much better listeners instead of just ordering us around from way above our little selves as was the fashion into  the sixties (Halbgötter in Weiß=Half-Gods in White). To tell it as the patient keeping the doctor reasonable seems a PR-gimmick to me]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anne<br />
I liked this education of the doctors!!! towards treating their patients as responsible adults from the start very much &#8211; the doctor still recommends and tells you, if there is an alternative but mostly they have become much better listeners instead of just ordering us around from way above our little selves as was the fashion into  the sixties (Halbgötter in Weiß=Half-Gods in White). To tell it as the patient keeping the doctor reasonable seems a PR-gimmick to me</p>
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