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		<title>By: Voucher code</title>
		<link>http://baselinescenario.com/2009/08/15/has-anyone-taken-responsibility-for-anything-weekend-comment-competition/#comment-27446</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Voucher code]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Sep 2009 07:47:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Your suggestion really divide the competition into three classes.]]></description>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Brian]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Aug 2009 04:18:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In a speech at the Kansas City Fed&#039;s annual retreat in Jackson Hole, Wyo., Bernanke summarized a hellish year and explained modestly how he and his central bank colleagues saved the world from a bigger disaster.

&quot;The world has been through the most severe financial crisis since the Great Depression,&quot; he said. &quot;As severe as the economic impact has been, however, the outcome could have been decidedly worse.&quot;

If the Fed, other central banks and other government leaders hadn&#039;t acted in a coordinated and aggressive way in September and October of 2008, &quot;the resulting global downturn could have been extraordinarily deep and protracted,&quot; Bernanke said.

The policy response &quot;averted the imminent collapse of the global financial system, an outcome that seemed all too possible to the finance ministers and central bankers.&quot; 
This is from Mish,  However you could easily change Bernanke&#039;s wording as follows.  If the Fed and other central banks had acted in a coordinated and agressive way in September and October of 2005-- you get the picture.  Bernanke gets my vote because he  had worked at the Fed leading up to this and now he is in charge. What a great country!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In a speech at the Kansas City Fed&#8217;s annual retreat in Jackson Hole, Wyo., Bernanke summarized a hellish year and explained modestly how he and his central bank colleagues saved the world from a bigger disaster.</p>
<p>&#8220;The world has been through the most severe financial crisis since the Great Depression,&#8221; he said. &#8220;As severe as the economic impact has been, however, the outcome could have been decidedly worse.&#8221;</p>
<p>If the Fed, other central banks and other government leaders hadn&#8217;t acted in a coordinated and aggressive way in September and October of 2008, &#8220;the resulting global downturn could have been extraordinarily deep and protracted,&#8221; Bernanke said.</p>
<p>The policy response &#8220;averted the imminent collapse of the global financial system, an outcome that seemed all too possible to the finance ministers and central bankers.&#8221;<br />
This is from Mish,  However you could easily change Bernanke&#8217;s wording as follows.  If the Fed and other central banks had acted in a coordinated and agressive way in September and October of 2005&#8211; you get the picture.  Bernanke gets my vote because he  had worked at the Fed leading up to this and now he is in charge. What a great country!</p>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Brian]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Aug 2009 03:44:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Did Hank Paulson really cut a deal with George Bush to sell his GS stock and not pay taxes just so he could be our Treasury Secretary?  Then  he went on to buy treasuries and at the same time sink the american taxpayer- wow that was  the greatest trade ever.  
Why was Geitner not paying his taxes? 
If I did&#039;nt pay my taxes would I get the same treatment? Could I  tell the IRS I forgot or was to busy meeting with Bernanke.? maybe my dog ate my 1099. At the end of the day - you think you&#039;ve been so smart- your  at the top of your game- yet you look around and noboby cares.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did Hank Paulson really cut a deal with George Bush to sell his GS stock and not pay taxes just so he could be our Treasury Secretary?  Then  he went on to buy treasuries and at the same time sink the american taxpayer- wow that was  the greatest trade ever.<br />
Why was Geitner not paying his taxes?<br />
If I did&#8217;nt pay my taxes would I get the same treatment? Could I  tell the IRS I forgot or was to busy meeting with Bernanke.? maybe my dog ate my 1099. At the end of the day &#8211; you think you&#8217;ve been so smart- your  at the top of your game- yet you look around and noboby cares.</p>
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		<title>By: Silke</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Silke]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Aug 2009 13:10:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;rather than as a benevolent act as it used to be,&quot;

except dealings between individuals I can&#039;t remember that ever having been the case 
- it may have been publicly claimed and a lot of small town bankers may actually have come pretty close to the ideal - acting responsibly towards their community and the borrower at the same time 
- but surely even they had a better income than the average 
- and from what can that have resulted if not from profit.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;rather than as a benevolent act as it used to be,&#8221;</p>
<p>except dealings between individuals I can&#8217;t remember that ever having been the case<br />
- it may have been publicly claimed and a lot of small town bankers may actually have come pretty close to the ideal &#8211; acting responsibly towards their community and the borrower at the same time<br />
- but surely even they had a better income than the average<br />
- and from what can that have resulted if not from profit.</p>
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		<title>By: nazari</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[nazari]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Aug 2009 07:37:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Anne,
I think you got it spot on. Especially the first point. Also means that as long as lending is an industry (i.e. an activity to profit from) rather than as a benevolent act as it used to be, financial crises will always be with us. And it will get bigger and nastier. Trying to solve the problem by trying to revive the lending industry is like trying to solve traffic congestion problems by encouraging the growth of the car industry. It simply does not make sense.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anne,<br />
I think you got it spot on. Especially the first point. Also means that as long as lending is an industry (i.e. an activity to profit from) rather than as a benevolent act as it used to be, financial crises will always be with us. And it will get bigger and nastier. Trying to solve the problem by trying to revive the lending industry is like trying to solve traffic congestion problems by encouraging the growth of the car industry. It simply does not make sense.</p>
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		<title>By: Silke</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Silke]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Aug 2009 10:15:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[not yet 
- the old aristocrats had a lot more on offer 
- the conspicuous consumption they paddle publicly is pityful 
- that will have to change!!! ;-) 
- but maybe their strongholds are not yet complete and so they do not dare yet]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>not yet<br />
- the old aristocrats had a lot more on offer<br />
- the conspicuous consumption they paddle publicly is pityful<br />
- that will have to change!!! ;-)<br />
- but maybe their strongholds are not yet complete and so they do not dare yet</p>
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		<title>By: Yakkis</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Yakkis]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Aug 2009 04:22:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[anti_fascist_freedom_fighter, it&#039;s called &quot;the new philanthropy.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>anti_fascist_freedom_fighter, it&#8217;s called &#8220;the new philanthropy.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Yakkis</title>
		<link>http://baselinescenario.com/2009/08/15/has-anyone-taken-responsibility-for-anything-weekend-comment-competition/#comment-24677</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Yakkis]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Aug 2009 04:19:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Actually they still pretend.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually they still pretend.</p>
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		<title>By: anti_fascist_freedom_fighter</title>
		<link>http://baselinescenario.com/2009/08/15/has-anyone-taken-responsibility-for-anything-weekend-comment-competition/#comment-24664</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[anti_fascist_freedom_fighter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Aug 2009 02:16:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You hit the nail on the head, brother.  The government no longer represents the people (nor does it even care to pretend to represent the people)... the government (and maybe all governments) now exclusively represent multi-national corporations - and that, my friends, is called fascism...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You hit the nail on the head, brother.  The government no longer represents the people (nor does it even care to pretend to represent the people)&#8230; the government (and maybe all governments) now exclusively represent multi-national corporations &#8211; and that, my friends, is called fascism&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: anti_fascist_freedom_fighter</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[anti_fascist_freedom_fighter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Aug 2009 02:01:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I like that the transformation is complete: you don&#039;t apologize for being a greedy piece of dung, and screwing over everyone else on the planet, now do you?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like that the transformation is complete: you don&#8217;t apologize for being a greedy piece of dung, and screwing over everyone else on the planet, now do you?</p>
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		<title>By: anne</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[anne]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Aug 2009 16:45:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[1)  Bankers who turned banking into usury and who have used the wealth they&#039;ve accumulated to buy congress/own power.

2) All members of the American political elite - the governors, the congressmen, the senators who&#039;ve been bought by special interests, forgetting the true reason for political power, to be the voice of the people who elected them.

3)  Economists who develop math models that prop up ridiculous business decisions - say, for instance, the math models that let people believe a housing market that skyrocketed significantly would continue to ascend forever, all evidence and commonsense be damned.

4)  Citizens of this country who appear to have become paralyzed into inaction.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1)  Bankers who turned banking into usury and who have used the wealth they&#8217;ve accumulated to buy congress/own power.</p>
<p>2) All members of the American political elite &#8211; the governors, the congressmen, the senators who&#8217;ve been bought by special interests, forgetting the true reason for political power, to be the voice of the people who elected them.</p>
<p>3)  Economists who develop math models that prop up ridiculous business decisions &#8211; say, for instance, the math models that let people believe a housing market that skyrocketed significantly would continue to ascend forever, all evidence and commonsense be damned.</p>
<p>4)  Citizens of this country who appear to have become paralyzed into inaction.</p>
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		<title>By: SvN</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[SvN]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Aug 2009 14:28:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What about the former acting CFO of Freddie Mac, David Kellermann? 

http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/k/david_b_kellermann/index.html?scp=1-spot&amp;sq=David%20Kellermann&amp;st=cse]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What about the former acting CFO of Freddie Mac, David Kellermann? </p>
<p><a href="http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/k/david_b_kellermann/index.html?scp=1-spot&#038;sq=David%20Kellermann&#038;st=cse" rel="nofollow">http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/k/david_b_kellermann/index.html?scp=1-spot&#038;sq=David%20Kellermann&#038;st=cse</a></p>
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		<title>By: Per Kurowski</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Per Kurowski]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Aug 2009 12:06:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Michael writes “Mea Culpas are long overdue from any and all the participants in the BIS Capital Adequacy Framework project(s).”

Not only have we not seen those Mea Culpas but they go on as if nothing has really happened with their fundamental regulatory paradigms.

Michael writes “It appeared that the development of the framework was broadly inclusive and exhaustingly and prudently vetted. The BIS working groups provided extraordinary disclosure. The debates were conducted in an open forum, and were documented and made readily accessible at their website. Many of the regulatory failings we are railing a about now, were openly considered and debated within the working goups.”

Yes as you say “It appeared” that way but no one was listening. I myself know very well how after having criticized the Basel structure, while being an Executive Director at the World Bank 2002-2004,  I was never thereafter invited by the management who are now very short on Mea Culpas and very long on hiding their responsibilities.

The real problem was that the whole Basel group basically came down to being an incestuous mutual admiration club… and still is!

Michael writes “For more than two decades the BISII project appeared to provide the best model for developing an optimal global regulatory framework”

Absolutely not! A regulatory model based on subsidizing perceived low risk and taxing risk is anathema to a world who wants and needs to go forward. Now if you are a baby-boomer and don´t care about what´s coming after “Après mois le deluge” then perhaps it made sense, though unluckily it did not last long enough to comfortably put you in your grave.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michael writes “Mea Culpas are long overdue from any and all the participants in the BIS Capital Adequacy Framework project(s).”</p>
<p>Not only have we not seen those Mea Culpas but they go on as if nothing has really happened with their fundamental regulatory paradigms.</p>
<p>Michael writes “It appeared that the development of the framework was broadly inclusive and exhaustingly and prudently vetted. The BIS working groups provided extraordinary disclosure. The debates were conducted in an open forum, and were documented and made readily accessible at their website. Many of the regulatory failings we are railing a about now, were openly considered and debated within the working goups.”</p>
<p>Yes as you say “It appeared” that way but no one was listening. I myself know very well how after having criticized the Basel structure, while being an Executive Director at the World Bank 2002-2004,  I was never thereafter invited by the management who are now very short on Mea Culpas and very long on hiding their responsibilities.</p>
<p>The real problem was that the whole Basel group basically came down to being an incestuous mutual admiration club… and still is!</p>
<p>Michael writes “For more than two decades the BISII project appeared to provide the best model for developing an optimal global regulatory framework”</p>
<p>Absolutely not! A regulatory model based on subsidizing perceived low risk and taxing risk is anathema to a world who wants and needs to go forward. Now if you are a baby-boomer and don´t care about what´s coming after “Après mois le deluge” then perhaps it made sense, though unluckily it did not last long enough to comfortably put you in your grave.</p>
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		<title>By: Silke</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Silke]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Aug 2009 11:04:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Russia is considered the true inheritor of the Byzantine Empire after the Ottomans&#039; conquest of Constantinople in 1453 says John Julius Norwich and the view seems to be widespread among British historians
that&#039;s why I am always anxiously reading whatever I can find about Putin and his confessor - having just read/learned what a power house the Orthodox Church in the hands of the right emperor can be.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Russia is considered the true inheritor of the Byzantine Empire after the Ottomans&#8217; conquest of Constantinople in 1453 says John Julius Norwich and the view seems to be widespread among British historians<br />
that&#8217;s why I am always anxiously reading whatever I can find about Putin and his confessor &#8211; having just read/learned what a power house the Orthodox Church in the hands of the right emperor can be.</p>
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		<title>By: Silke</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Silke]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Aug 2009 10:44:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ayn Rand hero and not just a Looter in Capitalist clothing.

the Ayn Rand hero fits in perfectable with the persona he presented in one TV-Show. He was the totally understanding it all wise old wizard - after having read his &quot;puzzled&quot; comments I couldn&#039;t quite believe the cheek of it
 (I only look at Jon Stewart, Colbert, Charlie Rose or the Atlantic sometimes so it must have been one of those)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ayn Rand hero and not just a Looter in Capitalist clothing.</p>
<p>the Ayn Rand hero fits in perfectable with the persona he presented in one TV-Show. He was the totally understanding it all wise old wizard &#8211; after having read his &#8220;puzzled&#8221; comments I couldn&#8217;t quite believe the cheek of it<br />
 (I only look at Jon Stewart, Colbert, Charlie Rose or the Atlantic sometimes so it must have been one of those)</p>
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