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		<title>By: dan</title>
		<link>http://baselinescenario.com/2009/07/14/will-cit-go-bankrupt/#comment-21422</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jul 2009 18:37:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[yea gave my mom at 74 a 30 year mortage not right]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yea gave my mom at 74 a 30 year mortage not right</p>
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		<title>By: xarxa</title>
		<link>http://baselinescenario.com/2009/07/14/will-cit-go-bankrupt/#comment-20136</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 23:18:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[CIT should be bailed out. They have the same right as GS or AIG. Just because they are small and are not a threat to the economy they don&#039;t deserve the same treatment? They are not speculating with the market, they just earn money by lending to firms that need capital to grow. They play an important role in the mid-size economy. If the problem is shortage of cash, just give them a loan or a guarantee of a debt issuance and that&#039;s it. They will continue to be profitable as when their stock was traded at 65 dollars.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CIT should be bailed out. They have the same right as GS or AIG. Just because they are small and are not a threat to the economy they don&#8217;t deserve the same treatment? They are not speculating with the market, they just earn money by lending to firms that need capital to grow. They play an important role in the mid-size economy. If the problem is shortage of cash, just give them a loan or a guarantee of a debt issuance and that&#8217;s it. They will continue to be profitable as when their stock was traded at 65 dollars.</p>
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		<title>By: Tippy Golden</title>
		<link>http://baselinescenario.com/2009/07/14/will-cit-go-bankrupt/#comment-20097</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tippy Golden]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 14:09:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Meant to say:

social and economic stability ...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Meant to say:</p>
<p>social and economic stability &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Tippy Golden</title>
		<link>http://baselinescenario.com/2009/07/14/will-cit-go-bankrupt/#comment-20096</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tippy Golden]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 14:07:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ll add here the top 1% in reality would not feel any burden from a 50% income tax. (Although, I don&#039;t know what the top tax bracket is in the United States).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll add here the top 1% in reality would not feel any burden from a 50% income tax. (Although, I don&#8217;t know what the top tax bracket is in the United States).</p>
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		<title>By: Tippy Golden</title>
		<link>http://baselinescenario.com/2009/07/14/will-cit-go-bankrupt/#comment-20094</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tippy Golden]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 13:58:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Peter,

As a non-economist, it seems to me part of the solution is simple. Tax reform. America needs to close the wage gap between the very rich and very poor. (IMHO, ridiculous, for one person to make $100 million in one year.) Social and economic comes from a widespread middle class.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00kt7rg&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Michael Sandel&lt;/a&gt; points out that &quot;the faith that markets are the primary instrument for achieving public good&quot; has failed.

It is music to my ears when he calls for a re-examination of &quot;civic life&quot;. At a certain level it resonates. It is something people hunger for.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Peter,</p>
<p>As a non-economist, it seems to me part of the solution is simple. Tax reform. America needs to close the wage gap between the very rich and very poor. (IMHO, ridiculous, for one person to make $100 million in one year.) Social and economic comes from a widespread middle class.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00kt7rg" rel="nofollow">Michael Sandel</a> points out that &#8220;the faith that markets are the primary instrument for achieving public good&#8221; has failed.</p>
<p>It is music to my ears when he calls for a re-examination of &#8220;civic life&#8221;. At a certain level it resonates. It is something people hunger for.</p>
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		<title>By: honeyelize</title>
		<link>http://baselinescenario.com/2009/07/14/will-cit-go-bankrupt/#comment-20091</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 13:18:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I like beautiful blogs!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like beautiful blogs!</p>
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		<title>By: silly things</title>
		<link>http://baselinescenario.com/2009/07/14/will-cit-go-bankrupt/#comment-20082</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[silly things]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 07:20:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Overall financial innovation have significantly improved overall market efficiency.  

However, like most powerful new technologies, we&#039;ll need to iteratively improve the implementation to work out all the bugs.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Overall financial innovation have significantly improved overall market efficiency.  </p>
<p>However, like most powerful new technologies, we&#8217;ll need to iteratively improve the implementation to work out all the bugs.</p>
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		<title>By: pete muldoon</title>
		<link>http://baselinescenario.com/2009/07/14/will-cit-go-bankrupt/#comment-20080</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[pete muldoon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 06:06:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Or will gain more from a bailout of CIT, in which case Goldman will get paid twice; first, as its bad trades are rescued by taxpayers, and then again as gains on its hedges on those trades are realized.

I spent an hour tonight ripping Goldman &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.guerillapost.com/2009/07/goldman-is-killing-it.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt; if you want to check it out.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Or will gain more from a bailout of CIT, in which case Goldman will get paid twice; first, as its bad trades are rescued by taxpayers, and then again as gains on its hedges on those trades are realized.</p>
<p>I spent an hour tonight ripping Goldman <a href="http://www.guerillapost.com/2009/07/goldman-is-killing-it.html" rel="nofollow">here</a> if you want to check it out.</p>
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		<title>By: pete muldoon</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[pete muldoon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 05:57:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This was the comment I wanted to leave, but you said it much better than I would have.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This was the comment I wanted to leave, but you said it much better than I would have.</p>
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		<title>By: pete muldoon</title>
		<link>http://baselinescenario.com/2009/07/14/will-cit-go-bankrupt/#comment-20078</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[pete muldoon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 05:56:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Stats Guy is right, though.

We sent our best mathematical minds, who could have been gainfully employed elsewhere in the economy, on a hopeless mission to eliminate the risk posed by human market interaction.

One has to think that getting them out of the casino and back to work would be a good thing. But as long as the dice are loaded and they&#039;re still cashing in, there&#039;s not much hope of this.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stats Guy is right, though.</p>
<p>We sent our best mathematical minds, who could have been gainfully employed elsewhere in the economy, on a hopeless mission to eliminate the risk posed by human market interaction.</p>
<p>One has to think that getting them out of the casino and back to work would be a good thing. But as long as the dice are loaded and they&#8217;re still cashing in, there&#8217;s not much hope of this.</p>
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		<title>By: anne</title>
		<link>http://baselinescenario.com/2009/07/14/will-cit-go-bankrupt/#comment-20077</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[anne]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 05:26:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I thought this was a very interesting story in the WSJ - different than yours:

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124762129423442667.html

I don&#039;t know whether or not CIT should be bailed out.  But I wonder if letting it fail means we&#039;ve thoroughly institutionalized &quot;too-big-to-fail&quot; into the system.  To earn the big bucks, you&#039;ve got to have the size to engage in the risk and become big enough to insure you&#039;ll bet bailed out when the risks don&#039;t pan out.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought this was a very interesting story in the WSJ &#8211; different than yours:</p>
<p><a href="http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124762129423442667.html" rel="nofollow">http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124762129423442667.html</a></p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know whether or not CIT should be bailed out.  But I wonder if letting it fail means we&#8217;ve thoroughly institutionalized &#8220;too-big-to-fail&#8221; into the system.  To earn the big bucks, you&#8217;ve got to have the size to engage in the risk and become big enough to insure you&#8217;ll bet bailed out when the risks don&#8217;t pan out.</p>
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		<title>By: StatsGuy</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 05:07:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ugh...

Obviously, CIT isn&#039;t having a solvency problem.  Just a liquidity problem.  It&#039;s a crisis of confidence, not competence.  Plain as day.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ugh&#8230;</p>
<p>Obviously, CIT isn&#8217;t having a solvency problem.  Just a liquidity problem.  It&#8217;s a crisis of confidence, not competence.  Plain as day.</p>
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		<title>By: nah</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 04:43:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Enough with the “only the correctly politically connected get bailed out”. Bail out CIT…they bailed GE Cap.

Bail them all, or let them all die, no political favoritism, or the inevitable vengeful paybacks will be uglier than the current mess.

Personally, at this juncture, I say bail them out. We are already so deep into this abyss of deficit…and have already conceived the climax of our governments mismanagement…lets bail out everyone and enjoy the party as long as we can.
.....

Great comment, what does it matter the problem is the system.  But if we arent going to do anything about fraud, corrupt regulators, and hella government debt.  Why make it hurt more than it has to.
.
In the same vein if contracts are so cheap and poorly written by asset managers.  Well why all the leg up on the economy when its NOT even the banks money OR risk.  We need a radical change back to capitalism and in my opinion if a CIT bailout is step 1, step 2 should be just as full of possibilities like getting real real with the banks over this.  give me wal mart banking over this crap, at least i can get a fair deal and never hear the world goldman sachs again.
.
and if only one thing comes out of this that would be enough for me.  no more goldman sachs, someone should really pay for the systemic failure, just like all the millions of dudes loosing their jobs, houses, and l8r maybe even families]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Enough with the “only the correctly politically connected get bailed out”. Bail out CIT…they bailed GE Cap.</p>
<p>Bail them all, or let them all die, no political favoritism, or the inevitable vengeful paybacks will be uglier than the current mess.</p>
<p>Personally, at this juncture, I say bail them out. We are already so deep into this abyss of deficit…and have already conceived the climax of our governments mismanagement…lets bail out everyone and enjoy the party as long as we can.<br />
&#8230;..</p>
<p>Great comment, what does it matter the problem is the system.  But if we arent going to do anything about fraud, corrupt regulators, and hella government debt.  Why make it hurt more than it has to.<br />
.<br />
In the same vein if contracts are so cheap and poorly written by asset managers.  Well why all the leg up on the economy when its NOT even the banks money OR risk.  We need a radical change back to capitalism and in my opinion if a CIT bailout is step 1, step 2 should be just as full of possibilities like getting real real with the banks over this.  give me wal mart banking over this crap, at least i can get a fair deal and never hear the world goldman sachs again.<br />
.<br />
and if only one thing comes out of this that would be enough for me.  no more goldman sachs, someone should really pay for the systemic failure, just like all the millions of dudes loosing their jobs, houses, and l8r maybe even families</p>
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		<title>By: Bond Girl</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 04:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[But it is completely fair to say Wall Street started all of this mess...

And it does appear the government is going to give in:
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124761812925042431.html#mod=testMod]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But it is completely fair to say Wall Street started all of this mess&#8230;</p>
<p>And it does appear the government is going to give in:<br />
<a href="http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124761812925042431.html#mod=testMod" rel="nofollow">http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124761812925042431.html#mod=testMod</a></p>
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		<title>By: anne</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 04:25:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You&#039;re right.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re right.</p>
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