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		<title>By: Amped Status &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Stopping the IMF Bailout</title>
		<link>http://baselinescenario.com/2009/06/05/latvia-should-you-care/#comment-17534</link>
		<dc:creator>Amped Status &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Stopping the IMF Bailout</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2009 13:08:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] it appears to be, actually. This unprecedented increase in the Fund&#8217;s resources, with a goal of $1tn, is vastly higher [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Try to find an account in the mainstream media &#171; Later On</title>
		<link>http://baselinescenario.com/2009/06/05/latvia-should-you-care/#comment-17504</link>
		<dc:creator>Try to find an account in the mainstream media &#171; Later On</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2009 02:12:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] it appears to be, actually. This unprecedented increase in the Fund&#8217;s resources, with a goal of $1 trillion, is vastly [...]</description>
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		<title>By: The war over IMF funding &#124; Mark Weisbrot &#124; A Great President</title>
		<link>http://baselinescenario.com/2009/06/05/latvia-should-you-care/#comment-17157</link>
		<dc:creator>The war over IMF funding &#124; Mark Weisbrot &#124; A Great President</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 01:08:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] it appears to be, actually. This unprecedented increase in the Fund&#8217;s resources, with a goal of $1tn, is vastly higher [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Photomaniacal &#187; Blog Archive &#187; The war over IMF funding &#124; Mark Weisbrot</title>
		<link>http://baselinescenario.com/2009/06/05/latvia-should-you-care/#comment-17133</link>
		<dc:creator>Photomaniacal &#187; Blog Archive &#187; The war over IMF funding &#124; Mark Weisbrot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 19:33:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] it appears to be, actually. This unprecedented increase in the Fund&#8217;s resources, with a goal of $1tn, is vastly higher [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Tippy Golden</title>
		<link>http://baselinescenario.com/2009/06/05/latvia-should-you-care/#comment-17097</link>
		<dc:creator>Tippy Golden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 05:09:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Kristjan, I will look at this over the weekend.</description>
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		<title>By: Political Jib.com &#187; Robert Weissman: The IMF Accountability Moment</title>
		<link>http://baselinescenario.com/2009/06/05/latvia-should-you-care/#comment-17078</link>
		<dc:creator>Political Jib.com &#187; Robert Weissman: The IMF Accountability Moment</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 22:43:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] debate over the merits of IMF funding. Critics would raise concerns that the money will be used to bail out European banks that lent recklessly in Eastern Europe. Appropriations Committee Chair David Obey has highlighted [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Kristjan V.</title>
		<link>http://baselinescenario.com/2009/06/05/latvia-should-you-care/#comment-16929</link>
		<dc:creator>Kristjan V.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jun 2009 15:41:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tippy,
I&#039;m sorry it took such a long time for me to post these charts. Anyway, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.kristjanvelbri.com/files/Economy/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt; they are. If you want additional information, please let me know.

As far as Canadian banks are concerned, you&#039;ve done a great job handling them. The US is way out of line with its backstopping, guarantees and bailouts. They&#039;re gonna finally kill the dollar.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tippy,<br />
I&#8217;m sorry it took such a long time for me to post these charts. Anyway, <a href="http://www.kristjanvelbri.com/files/Economy/" rel="nofollow">here</a> they are. If you want additional information, please let me know.</p>
<p>As far as Canadian banks are concerned, you&#8217;ve done a great job handling them. The US is way out of line with its backstopping, guarantees and bailouts. They&#8217;re gonna finally kill the dollar.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter</title>
		<link>http://baselinescenario.com/2009/06/05/latvia-should-you-care/#comment-16895</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jun 2009 09:04:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is one key point that differs Latvia from Argentina. They are free to travel and work in the Eurozone. Many of them are doing it in this season earning money in farms and working in private construction for households.

You have to calculate not only the current account deficit but also the money send back home / taken home from the hard coin countries were citizens have lend the money for their mortgages.

This is the real difference between the eastern Eurozone countries and South-America.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is one key point that differs Latvia from Argentina. They are free to travel and work in the Eurozone. Many of them are doing it in this season earning money in farms and working in private construction for households.</p>
<p>You have to calculate not only the current account deficit but also the money send back home / taken home from the hard coin countries were citizens have lend the money for their mortgages.</p>
<p>This is the real difference between the eastern Eurozone countries and South-America.</p>
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		<title>By: Apolinaras "Apollo" Sinkevicius &#124; LeanStartups.com</title>
		<link>http://baselinescenario.com/2009/06/05/latvia-should-you-care/#comment-16827</link>
		<dc:creator>Apolinaras "Apollo" Sinkevicius &#124; LeanStartups.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jun 2009 02:59:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We can complain and moan about Latvia and IMF, but the fact remains that it all started in US and EU countries got &quot;infected&quot; with same financial shenanigans. Now most countries are in a &quot;catch 22&quot;. Real estate values went down about 50%, GDPs are going to hell. Before you know it, the dominos start tumbling.
No, 2.3MM people going under will not create even larger crisis. Unfortunately, we are not talking about an isolated island nation in the middle of the ocean. EU countries are closely tied together. If one falls, the rest suffer as much. Capital markets are awfully intertwined, we all got into this mess and we all will have to figure it out. There will be lots of anger, spite, bad feelings, and heck knows what else. Again, we can moan and grumble, but that will not make these problems disappear.
What do I suggest? We deal with this one day at a time. There is nothing else we can do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We can complain and moan about Latvia and IMF, but the fact remains that it all started in US and EU countries got &#8220;infected&#8221; with same financial shenanigans. Now most countries are in a &#8220;catch 22&#8243;. Real estate values went down about 50%, GDPs are going to hell. Before you know it, the dominos start tumbling.<br />
No, 2.3MM people going under will not create even larger crisis. Unfortunately, we are not talking about an isolated island nation in the middle of the ocean. EU countries are closely tied together. If one falls, the rest suffer as much. Capital markets are awfully intertwined, we all got into this mess and we all will have to figure it out. There will be lots of anger, spite, bad feelings, and heck knows what else. Again, we can moan and grumble, but that will not make these problems disappear.<br />
What do I suggest? We deal with this one day at a time. There is nothing else we can do.</p>
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		<link>http://baselinescenario.com/2009/06/05/latvia-should-you-care/#comment-16769</link>
		<dc:creator>Friday links: lottery ticket trading &#124; Investing - Thecreditcardfiles.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jun 2009 12:13:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] &#8220;(W)e are still not ready for hard economic conversations anywhere in the world.  Wishful thinking prevails, in Europe as much as in the United States.&#8221;  (Baseline Scenario) [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] &#8220;(W)e are still not ready for hard economic conversations anywhere in the world.  Wishful thinking prevails, in Europe as much as in the United States.&#8221;  (Baseline Scenario) [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Secondary Sources: Depressions, Dudley, Latvia &#124; Bizness Geek</title>
		<link>http://baselinescenario.com/2009/06/05/latvia-should-you-care/#comment-16757</link>
		<dc:creator>Secondary Sources: Depressions, Dudley, Latvia &#124; Bizness Geek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jun 2009 03:33:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Latvia: Writing for the his Baseline Scenario blog, Simon Johnson looks at the importance of Latvia. &#8220;My takeaway: we are still not ready for hard economic conversations anywhere in the world. Wishful thinking prevails, in Europe as much as in the United States. No one wants to start the difficult and messy task of restructuring – i.e., reducing – debt payments. Everyone feels entitled to a bailout. And the banks get one. Or put it to your elected representative like this – we’re transferring Latvia’s debts from European banks onto the IMF, which is underwritten by our future tax dollars; then there will be default and devaluation for which no one is prepared.&#8221; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Latvia: Writing for the his Baseline Scenario blog, Simon Johnson looks at the importance of Latvia. &#8220;My takeaway: we are still not ready for hard economic conversations anywhere in the world. Wishful thinking prevails, in Europe as much as in the United States. No one wants to start the difficult and messy task of restructuring – i.e., reducing – debt payments. Everyone feels entitled to a bailout. And the banks get one. Or put it to your elected representative like this – we’re transferring Latvia’s debts from European banks onto the IMF, which is underwritten by our future tax dollars; then there will be default and devaluation for which no one is prepared.&#8221; [...]</p>
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		<description>[...]  Latvia: Should You Care? In the current field of grand economic strategy, against crisis and for recovery, Latvia looms small. This is a country [...] [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Tippy Golden</title>
		<link>http://baselinescenario.com/2009/06/05/latvia-should-you-care/#comment-16751</link>
		<dc:creator>Tippy Golden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Jun 2009 20:58:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Kristjan,

If the moderators did not mind, perhaps you could post the info. A way to learn how other economies are working around the world. (After all we are globalized and so too the financial crisis.)

Since I joined this blog, my learning curve has definitely gone up, and I&#039;ve come to appreciate my own country more. Many Canadians (myself included) take what we have for granted. Fish not knowing the water they swim in.

For instance, Canada is ranked by the World Economic Forum as having the --- soundest banking system --- in the world. We had a great run for more than a decade with Paul Martin as our Finance Minister. I am very sorry he left politics. He is the right person to be our Prime Minister during these uncertain times. Indeed, good for the international scene.

The pro-deregulation lobby --- did not --- manage to convince our government to allow high-risk mortgages (and derivatives?) til very late in the American game. Hah! Part of their argument was our financial system is falling behind, regulation is stifling competition! they said.

So we took a hit. But the exposure has not sunk any Canadian banks. They are still posting profits. Just not the record-breaking profits of the past. Definitely not bank bailouts required.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Kristjan,</p>
<p>If the moderators did not mind, perhaps you could post the info. A way to learn how other economies are working around the world. (After all we are globalized and so too the financial crisis.)</p>
<p>Since I joined this blog, my learning curve has definitely gone up, and I&#8217;ve come to appreciate my own country more. Many Canadians (myself included) take what we have for granted. Fish not knowing the water they swim in.</p>
<p>For instance, Canada is ranked by the World Economic Forum as having the &#8212; soundest banking system &#8212; in the world. We had a great run for more than a decade with Paul Martin as our Finance Minister. I am very sorry he left politics. He is the right person to be our Prime Minister during these uncertain times. Indeed, good for the international scene.</p>
<p>The pro-deregulation lobby &#8212; did not &#8212; manage to convince our government to allow high-risk mortgages (and derivatives?) til very late in the American game. Hah! Part of their argument was our financial system is falling behind, regulation is stifling competition! they said.</p>
<p>So we took a hit. But the exposure has not sunk any Canadian banks. They are still posting profits. Just not the record-breaking profits of the past. Definitely not bank bailouts required.</p>
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		<title>By: Kristjan V.</title>
		<link>http://baselinescenario.com/2009/06/05/latvia-should-you-care/#comment-16748</link>
		<dc:creator>Kristjan V.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Jun 2009 19:38:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tippy, 
I&#039;m afraid I can&#039;t give you a link because the Estonian Ministry of Finance doesn&#039;t have the documents in English. I&#039;ve no idea as to why that is. Anyway, the files that they&#039;ve uploaded are quite messy and I tried translating one of them...which only got me so far as to make me mad. You see, the software they use just doesn&#039;t run very good on my computer. Anyway, I will try to translate the data and I&#039;ll get back at you. Here&#039;s my e-mail (just in case): kvelbri[at]gmail[dot]com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tippy,<br />
I&#8217;m afraid I can&#8217;t give you a link because the Estonian Ministry of Finance doesn&#8217;t have the documents in English. I&#8217;ve no idea as to why that is. Anyway, the files that they&#8217;ve uploaded are quite messy and I tried translating one of them&#8230;which only got me so far as to make me mad. You see, the software they use just doesn&#8217;t run very good on my computer. Anyway, I will try to translate the data and I&#8217;ll get back at you. Here&#8217;s my e-mail (just in case): kvelbri[at]gmail[dot]com</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://baselinescenario.com/2009/06/05/latvia-should-you-care/#comment-16743</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Jun 2009 18:09:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The European Union Euro members have huge problems, as do many of its major banks that have huge exposures to the EU periphery states, Latvia being only one of these. However, we must remember that the EU is a bulwark against totalitarian regimes and the ways of the past, hence both an economic and political solution will be found, it may take a few years though.
That said, Friedmanite economics have failed, yet both the World Bank and IMF keep ramming them down everyones throats as panaceas to whatever ails an economy, such reforms as envisaged by both institutions usually only ever benefit a minority. 
A return to a more utilitarian view of economics is necessary if extreme political views are not to gain a foothold again in Europe. It shames me to say that fascism is evening showing its ugly head in the UK, surprisingly, we see little yearning for communism. Thus, it must be said that Keynes is about the best we have until some bright economists can offer a better path to lead us out of the current mess.
Although, given the gutting of the manufacturing sector in many nations, coupled with the growth of a parasitic financial services sector utterly divorced from reality, we really should be asking ourselves what Mr. Keynes would have made of all this if he were alive today.
Still, given the treatment doled out to him by the US in the aftermath of WWII a sense of irony is now apparent as the US itself goes begging to China to keep purchasing its debt.
We do seem to be in a vicious downwards spiral, however, out of this detris I&#039;m confident something will emerge, one just not is sure what exactly this will be at the moment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The European Union Euro members have huge problems, as do many of its major banks that have huge exposures to the EU periphery states, Latvia being only one of these. However, we must remember that the EU is a bulwark against totalitarian regimes and the ways of the past, hence both an economic and political solution will be found, it may take a few years though.<br />
That said, Friedmanite economics have failed, yet both the World Bank and IMF keep ramming them down everyones throats as panaceas to whatever ails an economy, such reforms as envisaged by both institutions usually only ever benefit a minority.<br />
A return to a more utilitarian view of economics is necessary if extreme political views are not to gain a foothold again in Europe. It shames me to say that fascism is evening showing its ugly head in the UK, surprisingly, we see little yearning for communism. Thus, it must be said that Keynes is about the best we have until some bright economists can offer a better path to lead us out of the current mess.<br />
Although, given the gutting of the manufacturing sector in many nations, coupled with the growth of a parasitic financial services sector utterly divorced from reality, we really should be asking ourselves what Mr. Keynes would have made of all this if he were alive today.<br />
Still, given the treatment doled out to him by the US in the aftermath of WWII a sense of irony is now apparent as the US itself goes begging to China to keep purchasing its debt.<br />
We do seem to be in a vicious downwards spiral, however, out of this detris I&#8217;m confident something will emerge, one just not is sure what exactly this will be at the moment.</p>
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