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		<title>By: TalithaTwoBlade</title>
		<link>http://baselinescenario.com/2009/03/17/political-will-bernanke-on-the-true-cost-of-banking/#comment-7339</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[TalithaTwoBlade]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Mar 2009 03:52:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Helicopter Ben Bernanke is swamping us with Massive Quantitative Easing....The Undertow is likely to destroy us all!

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Helicopter Ben Bernanke is swamping us with Massive Quantitative Easing&#8230;.The Undertow is likely to destroy us all!</p>
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		<title>By: Salamon NM</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Salamon NM]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2009 17:30:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[With respect to AIG, I do not believe that the USA can gamble that the company&#039;s demise within bankrupcy would not cause immedate and most likely fatal blowback to the USA economy. 

As posters noted many currency swaps are with foreign entities, which might take dim view of the USA, which would reflect on these foreign enteties Central Banks. which would most certainly have damaging effect on USA economy. 

A Country which depends on 12-15 million barrel import per day at a time when it is the world&#039;s largest debtor has major worries if there is sudden devaluation of her currency, or worse, no further loans.

I am sure that these worries, while unvoiced, play a major influense in mr. Bernanke&#039;s and the Administration&#039;s mind.

Most of the world rightly blames the USA [and the CITY in UK] as the source of the economic problems in the last 18 months. I do not think that they any more  need strong reminders as to the cause of the problem. The USA needs their savings, lest the USA economy wishes to imitate that of Russia in 1990-s!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With respect to AIG, I do not believe that the USA can gamble that the company&#8217;s demise within bankrupcy would not cause immedate and most likely fatal blowback to the USA economy. </p>
<p>As posters noted many currency swaps are with foreign entities, which might take dim view of the USA, which would reflect on these foreign enteties Central Banks. which would most certainly have damaging effect on USA economy. </p>
<p>A Country which depends on 12-15 million barrel import per day at a time when it is the world&#8217;s largest debtor has major worries if there is sudden devaluation of her currency, or worse, no further loans.</p>
<p>I am sure that these worries, while unvoiced, play a major influense in mr. Bernanke&#8217;s and the Administration&#8217;s mind.</p>
<p>Most of the world rightly blames the USA [and the CITY in UK] as the source of the economic problems in the last 18 months. I do not think that they any more  need strong reminders as to the cause of the problem. The USA needs their savings, lest the USA economy wishes to imitate that of Russia in 1990-s!</p>
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		<title>By: American Idol Worst Singer Ever! 2009!! Mary&#8217;s Back!!!! &#124; American Idol Mania</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[American Idol Worst Singer Ever! 2009!! Mary&#8217;s Back!!!! &#124; American Idol Mania]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2009 04:22:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Political Will: Bernanke On The True Cost Of Banking « The &#8230; [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: Simon Johnson: &#8220;Print money and hope for inflation&#8221; &#171; The Swamp Report</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Simon Johnson: &#8220;Print money and hope for inflation&#8221; &#171; The Swamp Report]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Mar 2009 21:26:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Johnson in RGE Monitor:  &#8220;As [Bernanke] sees the world, there is only one course of action remaining: print money and hope for a moderate degree of [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: billmon</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Mar 2009 19:45:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Jamie Dimon’s clever point: if you vilify us, you will lose&quot;

In an earlier revolutionary situation, this approach would have been known as &quot;economic sabatoge,&quot; and its proponents as &quot;spies and wreckers,&quot; if not &quot;class enemies.&quot;

Mr. Dimon and the rest of the American money manager capitalist class need to read up on their history.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Jamie Dimon’s clever point: if you vilify us, you will lose&#8221;</p>
<p>In an earlier revolutionary situation, this approach would have been known as &#8220;economic sabatoge,&#8221; and its proponents as &#8220;spies and wreckers,&#8221; if not &#8220;class enemies.&#8221;</p>
<p>Mr. Dimon and the rest of the American money manager capitalist class need to read up on their history.</p>
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		<title>By: Causes Of A Great Inflation: Tunneling For Resurrection &#171; The Baseline Scenario</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Mar 2009 13:42:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] As he sees the world, there is only one course of action remaining: print money and hope for a moderate degree of inflation.  The money part was, of course, the announcement yesterday from the Fed. [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] As he sees the world, there is only one course of action remaining: print money and hope for a moderate degree of inflation.  The money part was, of course, the announcement yesterday from the Fed. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: American oligarchs?&#160;&#124;&#160;Discover Texarkana</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Mar 2009 12:02:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] (daym=12) dn=&quot;PM&quot; if (hours&gt;12){ hours=hours-12 } if (hours==0) hours=12 if (minutes     Some&#160; interesting analysis this morning, as usual, from Simon Johnson at The Baseline Scenario [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: Policy Narcissism</title>
		<link>http://baselinescenario.com/2009/03/17/political-will-bernanke-on-the-true-cost-of-banking/#comment-6938</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Policy Narcissism]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Mar 2009 01:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The world will be a dangerous place when policy makers fall in love with their own ideas.  Congratulations Bernanke for destroying one of the few remaining free markets around.  Time to pack up and move.  In Bernanke we trust... In Bernanke we trust... In Bernanke we trust...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The world will be a dangerous place when policy makers fall in love with their own ideas.  Congratulations Bernanke for destroying one of the few remaining free markets around.  Time to pack up and move.  In Bernanke we trust&#8230; In Bernanke we trust&#8230; In Bernanke we trust&#8230;</p>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Mar 2009 00:17:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...]  Political Will: Bernanke On The True Cost Of Banking Stabilization programs in emerging markets often come down to this: the government needs to do something unpopular, [...] [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: MstrBones</title>
		<link>http://baselinescenario.com/2009/03/17/political-will-bernanke-on-the-true-cost-of-banking/#comment-6911</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[MstrBones]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Mar 2009 21:56:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There will probably be some coverage of this soon on this site, but the new 1.15 trillion that Bernanke is talking about using to buy up more bad mortgage securities, (ostensibly to lower interest rates for homebuyers), could also be construed to be an attempt to mitigate the need to nationalize based on the taxpayer owning the toxic security rather than the banks.  I don&#039;t know that this is such a good deal for, once again, the taxpayer.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There will probably be some coverage of this soon on this site, but the new 1.15 trillion that Bernanke is talking about using to buy up more bad mortgage securities, (ostensibly to lower interest rates for homebuyers), could also be construed to be an attempt to mitigate the need to nationalize based on the taxpayer owning the toxic security rather than the banks.  I don&#8217;t know that this is such a good deal for, once again, the taxpayer.</p>
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		<title>By: OK</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[OK]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Mar 2009 02:41:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You people are a riot.  You&#039;re surprised? angry? that Wall Streeters lack contrition? That AIG would negotiate a deal including huge bonuses with babe-in-the-woods Geithner and then take $30Bn from him a couple of weeks before the checks go out?  What world are you living in?  A brief 10,000 foot overview of Wall Street history - even over just the last 25 years - is replete with examples just as blatant.  Why did AIG pay the bonuses? Why did investment banks sell CDOs created from subprime loans to every Tom, Dick and Gunther who would buy one? Easy - as long as someone will buy it, Wall Street will sell it.  True 100 years ago, true today, true 100 years from now.
And don&#039;t think Barney Frank, et al, care about your home foreclosure.  And don&#039;t expect any contrition or modesty from that crowd either. 
There&#039;s a shitload of money on the table and the players are engaged.  We&#039;ll start to get out of this in 3Q.  Meanwhile, the big D.C. and Wall Street power brokers will do what they have always done - whatever it takes to improve their position.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You people are a riot.  You&#8217;re surprised? angry? that Wall Streeters lack contrition? That AIG would negotiate a deal including huge bonuses with babe-in-the-woods Geithner and then take $30Bn from him a couple of weeks before the checks go out?  What world are you living in?  A brief 10,000 foot overview of Wall Street history &#8211; even over just the last 25 years &#8211; is replete with examples just as blatant.  Why did AIG pay the bonuses? Why did investment banks sell CDOs created from subprime loans to every Tom, Dick and Gunther who would buy one? Easy &#8211; as long as someone will buy it, Wall Street will sell it.  True 100 years ago, true today, true 100 years from now.<br />
And don&#8217;t think Barney Frank, et al, care about your home foreclosure.  And don&#8217;t expect any contrition or modesty from that crowd either.<br />
There&#8217;s a shitload of money on the table and the players are engaged.  We&#8217;ll start to get out of this in 3Q.  Meanwhile, the big D.C. and Wall Street power brokers will do what they have always done &#8211; whatever it takes to improve their position.</p>
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		<title>By: Pete</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Pete]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Mar 2009 22:24:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[For all the bluff and blunder that seems to be going around in Washington about being upset about the AIG bonuses, and the excuses that &quot;these contracts are unbreakable.&quot;  I&#039;m just outraged.  

What manager writes a bonus plan that pays out no matter how large the individual/team/group/company loses money?  It&#039;s just preposterous that the management was dumb enough to write bonus plans with no controlling levers in them based on AIG profits.  At the end of the day their business unit lost money, so the factor that calculates their bonus should take that bonus to zero.  

And if that&#039;s not how the bonus plan was written, then I&#039;d advise our Financial leaders, who now own 80% of AIG and should be sitting on 8/10&#039;s of the board seats of AIG demand every AIG person be fired if they don&#039;t turn down the bonus, and sign amended bonus contracts that have logical performance factors.  

I&#039;ve said it before, I&#039;ll say it again.  Genius only goes so far, but idiocy has no upper bound.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For all the bluff and blunder that seems to be going around in Washington about being upset about the AIG bonuses, and the excuses that &#8220;these contracts are unbreakable.&#8221;  I&#8217;m just outraged.  </p>
<p>What manager writes a bonus plan that pays out no matter how large the individual/team/group/company loses money?  It&#8217;s just preposterous that the management was dumb enough to write bonus plans with no controlling levers in them based on AIG profits.  At the end of the day their business unit lost money, so the factor that calculates their bonus should take that bonus to zero.  </p>
<p>And if that&#8217;s not how the bonus plan was written, then I&#8217;d advise our Financial leaders, who now own 80% of AIG and should be sitting on 8/10&#8242;s of the board seats of AIG demand every AIG person be fired if they don&#8217;t turn down the bonus, and sign amended bonus contracts that have logical performance factors.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve said it before, I&#8217;ll say it again.  Genius only goes so far, but idiocy has no upper bound.</p>
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		<title>By: MstrBones</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[MstrBones]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Mar 2009 21:51:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&gt;All the money lost has been won by someone.

You need to read the primer of this site as to where the money went.

http://baselinescenario.com/financial-crisis-for-beginners/#deleveraging]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;All the money lost has been won by someone.</p>
<p>You need to read the primer of this site as to where the money went.</p>
<p><a href="http://baselinescenario.com/financial-crisis-for-beginners/#deleveraging" rel="nofollow">http://baselinescenario.com/financial-crisis-for-beginners/#deleveraging</a></p>
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		<title>By: MstrBones</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[MstrBones]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Mar 2009 21:16:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&gt;however if we fired every last one of those lousy bankers

Isn&#039;t that part of a nationalization scenario - get new management into these banks and not allow the folks that got the bank to the point of insolvency to continue?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;however if we fired every last one of those lousy bankers</p>
<p>Isn&#8217;t that part of a nationalization scenario &#8211; get new management into these banks and not allow the folks that got the bank to the point of insolvency to continue?</p>
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		<title>By: MstrBones</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[MstrBones]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Mar 2009 21:07:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I got a question...

Is there any chance that all this CEO rhetoric is a stall tactic till certain people clean their investments out of these banks prior to what will eventually become &quot;Nationalization&quot;?

I just gotta wonder.  I&#039;m no expert, but there is a lot of money and rich folk involved here.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I got a question&#8230;</p>
<p>Is there any chance that all this CEO rhetoric is a stall tactic till certain people clean their investments out of these banks prior to what will eventually become &#8220;Nationalization&#8221;?</p>
<p>I just gotta wonder.  I&#8217;m no expert, but there is a lot of money and rich folk involved here.</p>
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