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		<title>By: Is The G20 Summit Worth Holding? &#171; The Baseline Scenario</title>
		<link>http://baselinescenario.com/2009/03/16/much-worse-than-you-think-international-economic-diplomacy/#comment-8314</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Is The G20 Summit Worth Holding? &#171; The Baseline Scenario]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Mar 2009 12:06:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] tension - as I discuss in a piece at the New Republic online, the Europeans are lowballing (for no good reason), the emerging markets are standing idly by, and only President Obama could potentially rise to the [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] tension &#8211; as I discuss in a piece at the New Republic online, the Europeans are lowballing (for no good reason), the emerging markets are standing idly by, and only President Obama could potentially rise to the [...]</p>
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		<title>By: J Johnson</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[J Johnson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Mar 2009 19:54:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I quite agree with you, Mr. Bradbrooke.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I quite agree with you, Mr. Bradbrooke.</p>
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		<title>By: Sarah Jordan</title>
		<link>http://baselinescenario.com/2009/03/16/much-worse-than-you-think-international-economic-diplomacy/#comment-6710</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sarah Jordan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Mar 2009 18:08:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If truth were told, we are scared to death to take an unvarnished look at the books of our &quot;too big to fail&quot; banks.  There and at the IMF if we don&#039;t start with honesty and truth telling we are only fooling ourselves and any money will be &quot;throwing it into the wind&quot; for any good it will do.  You will only be propping these institutions up with no promise of a return to a sound fiduciary state.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If truth were told, we are scared to death to take an unvarnished look at the books of our &#8220;too big to fail&#8221; banks.  There and at the IMF if we don&#8217;t start with honesty and truth telling we are only fooling ourselves and any money will be &#8220;throwing it into the wind&#8221; for any good it will do.  You will only be propping these institutions up with no promise of a return to a sound fiduciary state.</p>
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		<title>By: Bretton Woods Non-Commission &#187; Blog Archive &#187; What&#8217;s Wrong at the IMF? It&#8217;s the Europeans Dammit, and the Development Community&#8217;s Confusion, too</title>
		<link>http://baselinescenario.com/2009/03/16/much-worse-than-you-think-international-economic-diplomacy/#comment-6693</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bretton Woods Non-Commission &#187; Blog Archive &#187; What&#8217;s Wrong at the IMF? It&#8217;s the Europeans Dammit, and the Development Community&#8217;s Confusion, too]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Mar 2009 16:48:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Johnson has a terrific statement on why you and I are missing the boat on what&#8217;s wrong at the IMF and why we&#8217;re not [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: Global Development: Views from the Center &#187; Blog Archive &#187; What&#8217;s Wrong at the IMF? It&#8217;s the Europeans Dammit, and the Development Community&#8217;s Confusion, too</title>
		<link>http://baselinescenario.com/2009/03/16/much-worse-than-you-think-international-economic-diplomacy/#comment-6690</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Mar 2009 16:44:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Johnson has a terrific statement on why you and I are missing the boat on what&#8217;s wrong at the IMF and why we&#8217;re not [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: markets.aurelius</title>
		<link>http://baselinescenario.com/2009/03/16/much-worse-than-you-think-international-economic-diplomacy/#comment-6656</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[markets.aurelius]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Mar 2009 11:47:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Brilliant, StatsGuy.  Spot on.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brilliant, StatsGuy.  Spot on.</p>
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		<title>By: anon</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[anon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Mar 2009 11:25:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[re: The IMF is just going to print money.

perhaps simon can clear this up, but not according to the Treasury:

&quot;...SDR certificates are not connected to gold or to the IMF. The Secretary of the Treasury is legally authorized to issue SDR certificates to the Federal Reserve banks and to redeem the certificates at times and in amounts that the Secretary of the Treasury may determine. This operation involves only the Treasury and the Federal Reserve....&quot; http://www.ustreas.gov/education/faq/international/goldsilver.shtml

although no one seems to have told the Kremlin: 

&quot;The Kremlin published its priorities Monday for an upcoming meeting of the G20, calling for the creation of a supranational reserve currency to be issued by international institutions as part of a reform of the global financial system.  The International Monetary Fund should investigate the possible creation of a new reserve currency, widening the list of reserve currencies or using its already existing Special Drawing Rights, or SDRs, as a &quot;superreserve currency accepted by the whole of the international community,&quot; the Kremlin said in a statement issued on its web site.  The SDR is an international reserve asset, created by the IMF in 1969 to supplement the existing official reserves of member countries. The Kremlin has persistently criticized the dollar&#039;s status as the dominant global reserve currency and has lowered its own dollar holdings in the last few years. Both President Dmitry Medvedev and Prime Minister Vladimir Putin have repeatedly called for the ruble to be used as a regional reserve currency, although the idea has received little support outside of Russia...&quot;  http://www.moscowtimes.ru/article/600/42/375364.htm]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>re: The IMF is just going to print money.</p>
<p>perhaps simon can clear this up, but not according to the Treasury:</p>
<p>&#8220;&#8230;SDR certificates are not connected to gold or to the IMF. The Secretary of the Treasury is legally authorized to issue SDR certificates to the Federal Reserve banks and to redeem the certificates at times and in amounts that the Secretary of the Treasury may determine. This operation involves only the Treasury and the Federal Reserve&#8230;.&#8221; <a href="http://www.ustreas.gov/education/faq/international/goldsilver.shtml" rel="nofollow">http://www.ustreas.gov/education/faq/international/goldsilver.shtml</a></p>
<p>although no one seems to have told the Kremlin: </p>
<p>&#8220;The Kremlin published its priorities Monday for an upcoming meeting of the G20, calling for the creation of a supranational reserve currency to be issued by international institutions as part of a reform of the global financial system.  The International Monetary Fund should investigate the possible creation of a new reserve currency, widening the list of reserve currencies or using its already existing Special Drawing Rights, or SDRs, as a &#8220;superreserve currency accepted by the whole of the international community,&#8221; the Kremlin said in a statement issued on its web site.  The SDR is an international reserve asset, created by the IMF in 1969 to supplement the existing official reserves of member countries. The Kremlin has persistently criticized the dollar&#8217;s status as the dominant global reserve currency and has lowered its own dollar holdings in the last few years. Both President Dmitry Medvedev and Prime Minister Vladimir Putin have repeatedly called for the ruble to be used as a regional reserve currency, although the idea has received little support outside of Russia&#8230;&#8221;  <a href="http://www.moscowtimes.ru/article/600/42/375364.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.moscowtimes.ru/article/600/42/375364.htm</a></p>
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		<title>By: Johnson disappointed by G20; so am I. &#171; ˈā-kwə-tēs</title>
		<link>http://baselinescenario.com/2009/03/16/much-worse-than-you-think-international-economic-diplomacy/#comment-6646</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Johnson disappointed by G20; so am I. &#171; ˈā-kwə-tēs]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Mar 2009 08:17:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] disappointed by the kind of results these supposedly smart leaders produce.  Writing in his blog BaselineScenario, [S]mart people frequently produce unfortunate or even idiotic outcomes - it all depends on the [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] disappointed by the kind of results these supposedly smart leaders produce.  Writing in his blog BaselineScenario, [S]mart people frequently produce unfortunate or even idiotic outcomes &#8211; it all depends on the [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Ex Central Banker</title>
		<link>http://baselinescenario.com/2009/03/16/much-worse-than-you-think-international-economic-diplomacy/#comment-6640</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ex Central Banker]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Mar 2009 03:54:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Tony Plummer wrote a great book on cycles that attempts to use some social-psychology and systems theory to unite economic theory and technical analysis of markets.

If you accept some of his admittedly assumption laden arguments, it is easy to recognise that this period of crisis is typical of a &quot;crisis cycle&quot;. 

The integrative elements that influence individual human behaviour - eg as the desire to belong/conform to the group - have been challenged by the shock to the collective belief system. People are defensive and accusatory... but seems natural given most people&#039;s aversion to blaming themeselves.

The reality is probably along the lines of George Soros idea of reflexivity. As participants in the system, many of us are probably at least in some part responsible for helping to reinforce the attitudes/behaviour that have lead us here. 

Crowd psychology suggests that these integrative or positive-feedback tendencies are likely to continue to be perpetuated given the need for conformity/acquiesence associated with a smooth social order.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tony Plummer wrote a great book on cycles that attempts to use some social-psychology and systems theory to unite economic theory and technical analysis of markets.</p>
<p>If you accept some of his admittedly assumption laden arguments, it is easy to recognise that this period of crisis is typical of a &#8220;crisis cycle&#8221;. </p>
<p>The integrative elements that influence individual human behaviour &#8211; eg as the desire to belong/conform to the group &#8211; have been challenged by the shock to the collective belief system. People are defensive and accusatory&#8230; but seems natural given most people&#8217;s aversion to blaming themeselves.</p>
<p>The reality is probably along the lines of George Soros idea of reflexivity. As participants in the system, many of us are probably at least in some part responsible for helping to reinforce the attitudes/behaviour that have lead us here. </p>
<p>Crowd psychology suggests that these integrative or positive-feedback tendencies are likely to continue to be perpetuated given the need for conformity/acquiesence associated with a smooth social order.</p>
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		<title>By: Billy Jones</title>
		<link>http://baselinescenario.com/2009/03/16/much-worse-than-you-think-international-economic-diplomacy/#comment-6633</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Billy Jones]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Mar 2009 02:59:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[maybe a little compassion is needed rather than the fittest will survive mentality. i&#039;ve had enough of that shit the past eight years. the way i see it,,,it you don&#039;t want to help your country and countrymen in time of need,,,,i will buy you a ticket for costa rica....you can live cheap,change your name,etc. hell,,,i will even throw in first years living expense. see how you will live with no connections in the biz world,,..bet the survival of the fittest will seem brutal to you i bet. that&#039;s how it is here with a lot of people. and quite frankly we are tired of it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>maybe a little compassion is needed rather than the fittest will survive mentality. i&#8217;ve had enough of that shit the past eight years. the way i see it,,,it you don&#8217;t want to help your country and countrymen in time of need,,,,i will buy you a ticket for costa rica&#8230;.you can live cheap,change your name,etc. hell,,,i will even throw in first years living expense. see how you will live with no connections in the biz world,,..bet the survival of the fittest will seem brutal to you i bet. that&#8217;s how it is here with a lot of people. and quite frankly we are tired of it.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin Casey</title>
		<link>http://baselinescenario.com/2009/03/16/much-worse-than-you-think-international-economic-diplomacy/#comment-6632</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kevin Casey]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Mar 2009 02:36:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Please stop encouraging politicians to spend money! They can&#039;t control themselves. You are encouraging and justifying their reckless behaviour.  I fear you may be underestimating the shrewdness of US and global politicians.

Judging by actions and results so far, doing nothing may have been better than the ad hoc positions changing every day which are being portrayed as policy.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please stop encouraging politicians to spend money! They can&#8217;t control themselves. You are encouraging and justifying their reckless behaviour.  I fear you may be underestimating the shrewdness of US and global politicians.</p>
<p>Judging by actions and results so far, doing nothing may have been better than the ad hoc positions changing every day which are being portrayed as policy.</p>
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		<title>By: Billy Jones</title>
		<link>http://baselinescenario.com/2009/03/16/much-worse-than-you-think-international-economic-diplomacy/#comment-6631</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Billy Jones]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Mar 2009 02:03:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Yes, European leaders and the Bush Administration pushed hard for the IMF to cut back on skilled and experienced staff just as the global crisis broke&quot;...

simon,,,this quote from you says it all..bet bush facilitated...i don&#039;t think alot of people in this country really understand the negative impact (seriously) the bush admin had on our country to the europeans. the europeans went alng with bush just like two passing people telling each other to have agreat day. the bush and folk tarnished this country something fierce.i am ashamed to say that he was our leader for eight years. these europeans look at our voting results. we pretty much are split with ideologies. but moving more center left but is it soon enough?don&#039;t be too hard on the europeans. they are just playing the waiting game. we need them and they need us. no more want to be cowboys ok with our presidents?i cannot stress enough the pure hell the bush years brought upon us. the europeans just want to make sure the see what this country actually believes in.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Yes, European leaders and the Bush Administration pushed hard for the IMF to cut back on skilled and experienced staff just as the global crisis broke&#8221;&#8230;</p>
<p>simon,,,this quote from you says it all..bet bush facilitated&#8230;i don&#8217;t think alot of people in this country really understand the negative impact (seriously) the bush admin had on our country to the europeans. the europeans went alng with bush just like two passing people telling each other to have agreat day. the bush and folk tarnished this country something fierce.i am ashamed to say that he was our leader for eight years. these europeans look at our voting results. we pretty much are split with ideologies. but moving more center left but is it soon enough?don&#8217;t be too hard on the europeans. they are just playing the waiting game. we need them and they need us. no more want to be cowboys ok with our presidents?i cannot stress enough the pure hell the bush years brought upon us. the europeans just want to make sure the see what this country actually believes in.</p>
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		<title>By: Per Kurowski</title>
		<link>http://baselinescenario.com/2009/03/16/much-worse-than-you-think-international-economic-diplomacy/#comment-6629</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Per Kurowski]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Mar 2009 01:21:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well I do not know of the remaining 80% of the IMF but if the 20% gone included those that did not speak out when the financial regulators in Basel authorized bank leverages of 62.5 to 1 as long as they lent to clients considered as AAA or AA- by one of three credit rating agencies, then I can only say good riddance.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well I do not know of the remaining 80% of the IMF but if the 20% gone included those that did not speak out when the financial regulators in Basel authorized bank leverages of 62.5 to 1 as long as they lent to clients considered as AAA or AA- by one of three credit rating agencies, then I can only say good riddance.</p>
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		<title>By: K T Cat</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[I saw that elsewhere and thought it too insane to be real.  The IMF is just going to print money.

Unreal.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I saw that elsewhere and thought it too insane to be real.  The IMF is just going to print money.</p>
<p>Unreal.</p>
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