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		<title>By: Recommended reads &#171; Caracas Gringo</title>
		<link>http://baselinescenario.com/2009/02/01/rahms-doctrine-and-breaking-up-the-banks/#comment-4651</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Recommended reads &#171; Caracas Gringo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Feb 2009 10:33:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Bank Bailouts Aren&#8217;t The Only Answer &#8212; &#8220;High Noon: Geithner v. The American Oligarchs&#8221; &#171; A New Way Forward on Economic Recovery</title>
		<link>http://baselinescenario.com/2009/02/01/rahms-doctrine-and-breaking-up-the-banks/#comment-4310</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bank Bailouts Aren&#8217;t The Only Answer &#8212; &#8220;High Noon: Geithner v. The American Oligarchs&#8221; &#171; A New Way Forward on Economic Recovery]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Feb 2009 02:02:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] From the Baseline Scenario Blog, we find cogent arguments on different alternatives to our economic crisis. Simon Johnson&#8217;s answer is  an FDIC overhaul of current banks in order that new, NON-entrenched banks can take their place. &#8220;There comes a time in every economic crisis or, more specifically, in every struggle to recover from a crisis, when someone steps up to the podium to promise the policies that - they say - will deliver you back to growth.  The person has political support, a strong track record, and every incentive to enter the history books.  But one nagging question remains. Can this person, your new economic strategist, really break with the vested elites that got you into this much trouble?  The form of these vested interests, of course, varies substantially across situations, but they are always still strong, despite the downward spiral which they did so much to bring about.  And fully escaping the grip of crisis really means breaking their power. [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] From the Baseline Scenario Blog, we find cogent arguments on different alternatives to our economic crisis. Simon Johnson&#8217;s answer is  an FDIC overhaul of current banks in order that new, NON-entrenched banks can take their place. &#8220;There comes a time in every economic crisis or, more specifically, in every struggle to recover from a crisis, when someone steps up to the podium to promise the policies that &#8211; they say &#8211; will deliver you back to growth.  The person has political support, a strong track record, and every incentive to enter the history books.  But one nagging question remains. Can this person, your new economic strategist, really break with the vested elites that got you into this much trouble?  The form of these vested interests, of course, varies substantially across situations, but they are always still strong, despite the downward spiral which they did so much to bring about.  And fully escaping the grip of crisis really means breaking their power. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: A very important article by an expert, discussing the necessary next step to solve the financial crisis &#171; Fabius Maximus</title>
		<link>http://baselinescenario.com/2009/02/01/rahms-doctrine-and-breaking-up-the-banks/#comment-4010</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[A very important article by an expert, discussing the necessary next step to solve the financial crisis &#171; Fabius Maximus]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2009 00:01:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Can this person, your new economic strategist, really break with the vested elites that got you into this much trouble?  The form of these vested interests, of course, varies substantially across situations, but they are always still strong, despite the downward spiral which they did so much to bring about.  And fully escaping the grip of crisis really means breaking their power. [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Can this person, your new economic strategist, really break with the vested elites that got you into this much trouble?  The form of these vested interests, of course, varies substantially across situations, but they are always still strong, despite the downward spiral which they did so much to bring about.  And fully escaping the grip of crisis really means breaking their power. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Can the Power of the Banks Be Overcome? &#124; Roylat.com</title>
		<link>http://baselinescenario.com/2009/02/01/rahms-doctrine-and-breaking-up-the-banks/#comment-3582</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Can the Power of the Banks Be Overcome? &#124; Roylat.com]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Feb 2009 16:35:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Can this person, your new economic strategist, really break with the vested elites that got you into this much trouble?&#160; The form of these vested interests, of course, varies substantially across situations, but they are always still strong, despite the downward spiral which they did so much to bring about.&#160; And fully escaping the grip of crisis really means breaking their power&#8230; [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Can this person, your new economic strategist, really break with the vested elites that got you into this much trouble?&#160; The form of these vested interests, of course, varies substantially across situations, but they are always still strong, despite the downward spiral which they did so much to bring about.&#160; And fully escaping the grip of crisis really means breaking their power&#8230; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Politics or Poppycock</title>
		<link>http://baselinescenario.com/2009/02/01/rahms-doctrine-and-breaking-up-the-banks/#comment-3401</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Politics or Poppycock]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Feb 2009 17:15:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Can this person, your new economic strategist, really break with the vested elites that got you into this much trouble? The form of these vested interests, of course, varies substantially across situations, but they are always still strong, despite the downward spiral which they did so much to bring about. And fully escaping the grip of crisis really means breaking their power. [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Can this person, your new economic strategist, really break with the vested elites that got you into this much trouble? The form of these vested interests, of course, varies substantially across situations, but they are always still strong, despite the downward spiral which they did so much to bring about. And fully escaping the grip of crisis really means breaking their power. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Secretary Geithner&#8217;s Speech: A Viewer&#8217;s Guide &#171; The Baseline Scenario</title>
		<link>http://baselinescenario.com/2009/02/01/rahms-doctrine-and-breaking-up-the-banks/#comment-3389</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Secretary Geithner&#8217;s Speech: A Viewer&#8217;s Guide &#171; The Baseline Scenario]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Feb 2009 11:09:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] major breakthrough for the Secretary recognize, in any fashion, that the largest banks are &#8220;too big to exist.&#8221;  Is there even a hint that he thinks the size and concentration of our banking system is a [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] major breakthrough for the Secretary recognize, in any fashion, that the largest banks are &#8220;too big to exist.&#8221;  Is there even a hint that he thinks the size and concentration of our banking system is a [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Breaking up the big banks - now is the time &#124; The Humane Economy</title>
		<link>http://baselinescenario.com/2009/02/01/rahms-doctrine-and-breaking-up-the-banks/#comment-3213</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Breaking up the big banks - now is the time &#124; The Humane Economy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2009 14:13:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Johnson says what&#8217;s being described as &#8220;Rahm&#8217;s Doctrine&#8221; can be applied to fixing our deeply broken financial system.  From Baseline Scenario: Recent prominent actions on Wall Street - excessive risk [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Johnson says what&#8217;s being described as &#8220;Rahm&#8217;s Doctrine&#8221; can be applied to fixing our deeply broken financial system.  From Baseline Scenario: Recent prominent actions on Wall Street &#8211; excessive risk [...]</p>
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		<title>By: NoteMods.org - Loan Modification &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Secondary Sources: What to Do About Banks?, Why Tax Cuts?</title>
		<link>http://baselinescenario.com/2009/02/01/rahms-doctrine-and-breaking-up-the-banks/#comment-3194</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[NoteMods.org - Loan Modification &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Secondary Sources: What to Do About Banks?, Why Tax Cuts?]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2009 02:02:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Bank Nationalization: Simon Johnson of BaselineScenario.com and Arnold Kling of EconLog participated in Web chat sponsored by NPR debating bank [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: NoteMod.org &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Secondary Sources: What to Do About Banks?, Why Tax Cuts?</title>
		<link>http://baselinescenario.com/2009/02/01/rahms-doctrine-and-breaking-up-the-banks/#comment-3193</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[NoteMod.org &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Secondary Sources: What to Do About Banks?, Why Tax Cuts?]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2009 02:01:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Bank Nationalization: Simon Johnson of BaselineScenario.com and Arnold Kling of EconLog participated in Web chat sponsored by NPR debating bank [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: Anarchus</title>
		<link>http://baselinescenario.com/2009/02/01/rahms-doctrine-and-breaking-up-the-banks/#comment-3186</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anarchus]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Feb 2009 19:31:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The problem with letting the normal bankruptcy laws apply to the banks is that when that process was tried with Lehman, the financial world pretty much came unglued within a week (go back and look - it was September 15th, 2008) and shortly after that the real economy started to fall apart.

My opinion:  The chief transmission mechanism then was the nexus of the commercial paper market and Money Market Funds.  Because Lehman went bust so fast and the Reserve Funds had way too much Lehman paper, the Principal Reserve MM Fund broke the buck spectacularly and froze investors&#039; funds on top of that.  So there was a quiet run on non-Treasury MM funds that led to the commercial paper market freezing up.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem with letting the normal bankruptcy laws apply to the banks is that when that process was tried with Lehman, the financial world pretty much came unglued within a week (go back and look &#8211; it was September 15th, 2008) and shortly after that the real economy started to fall apart.</p>
<p>My opinion:  The chief transmission mechanism then was the nexus of the commercial paper market and Money Market Funds.  Because Lehman went bust so fast and the Reserve Funds had way too much Lehman paper, the Principal Reserve MM Fund broke the buck spectacularly and froze investors&#8217; funds on top of that.  So there was a quiet run on non-Treasury MM funds that led to the commercial paper market freezing up.</p>
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		<title>By: John N. Winn</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John N. Winn]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Feb 2009 18:06:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Let the normal bankruptcy laws apply to the banks.  It&#039;s called the market.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let the normal bankruptcy laws apply to the banks.  It&#8217;s called the market.</p>
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		<title>By: Real Time Economics : Secondary Sources: What to Do About Banks?, Why Tax Cuts?</title>
		<link>http://baselinescenario.com/2009/02/01/rahms-doctrine-and-breaking-up-the-banks/#comment-3181</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Real Time Economics : Secondary Sources: What to Do About Banks?, Why Tax Cuts?]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Feb 2009 14:37:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Bank Nationalization: Simon Johnson of BaselineScenario.com and Arnold Kling of EconLog participated in Web chat sponsored by NPR debating bank [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: Anarchus</title>
		<link>http://baselinescenario.com/2009/02/01/rahms-doctrine-and-breaking-up-the-banks/#comment-3180</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anarchus]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Feb 2009 13:38:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well, yes.

Doesn&#039;t it trouble you that not only are many of the same executives who got us into this mess still managing their banks and financial institutions, but also that so many of the government enablers of the regulatory debacle (Summers, Bernanke, Geithner) are also maintaining their grip on power?

Just to cite one specific example, there were rumors in late Feb and early Mar 2008 that Bear Stearns had serious liquidity problems.  This article from Vanity Fair gives a wonderful insider-view perspective:

http://www.vanityfair.com/politics/features/2008/08/bear_stearns200808

Now apparently Bear Stearns&#039; liquidity problems weren&#039;t massive though the whole mortgage market and B/D balance sheets were a bit frozen, so on Tuesday March 11th the Fed announced the &quot;TSLF&quot; to address the problem.

Now that did two things.  The first tangible thing is that the Fed created a program to allow banks and B/Ds to exchange illiquid mortgage securities for highly liquid Treasuries, BUT the announced the program wouldn&#039;t be implemented until March 27th.  The second thing accomplished by the Fed announcement was to announce to the world that there was a serious liquidity problem in the markets, which caused investors to give all major financial institutions a quick once-over to see who might be in difficulty.

That Wednesday, I sent an email to a friend calling the TSLF &quot;The Bear Stearns Bail Out Act of 2008&quot;.  What I didn&#039;t realize quickly enough is that the Fed itself had sealed Bear Stearns&#039; fate:  by creating the TSLF, the Fed had all but announced to the world that one-or-more major institutions could be having serious trouble, making the crisis worse, and by delaying implementation of the TSLF until approx. two weeks later on March 27th, the Fed guaranteed that extra liquidity to offset the panic wouldn&#039;t be available soon enough to help.  Under the circumstances, it&#039;s not surprising that Bear Stearns pretty much went out of business on the evening of Friday March 14th.  What is surprising is that Bernanke and Geithner are still viewed as being responsible people who are part of the solution rather than being part of the problem.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, yes.</p>
<p>Doesn&#8217;t it trouble you that not only are many of the same executives who got us into this mess still managing their banks and financial institutions, but also that so many of the government enablers of the regulatory debacle (Summers, Bernanke, Geithner) are also maintaining their grip on power?</p>
<p>Just to cite one specific example, there were rumors in late Feb and early Mar 2008 that Bear Stearns had serious liquidity problems.  This article from Vanity Fair gives a wonderful insider-view perspective:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.vanityfair.com/politics/features/2008/08/bear_stearns200808" rel="nofollow">http://www.vanityfair.com/politics/features/2008/08/bear_stearns200808</a></p>
<p>Now apparently Bear Stearns&#8217; liquidity problems weren&#8217;t massive though the whole mortgage market and B/D balance sheets were a bit frozen, so on Tuesday March 11th the Fed announced the &#8220;TSLF&#8221; to address the problem.</p>
<p>Now that did two things.  The first tangible thing is that the Fed created a program to allow banks and B/Ds to exchange illiquid mortgage securities for highly liquid Treasuries, BUT the announced the program wouldn&#8217;t be implemented until March 27th.  The second thing accomplished by the Fed announcement was to announce to the world that there was a serious liquidity problem in the markets, which caused investors to give all major financial institutions a quick once-over to see who might be in difficulty.</p>
<p>That Wednesday, I sent an email to a friend calling the TSLF &#8220;The Bear Stearns Bail Out Act of 2008&#8243;.  What I didn&#8217;t realize quickly enough is that the Fed itself had sealed Bear Stearns&#8217; fate:  by creating the TSLF, the Fed had all but announced to the world that one-or-more major institutions could be having serious trouble, making the crisis worse, and by delaying implementation of the TSLF until approx. two weeks later on March 27th, the Fed guaranteed that extra liquidity to offset the panic wouldn&#8217;t be available soon enough to help.  Under the circumstances, it&#8217;s not surprising that Bear Stearns pretty much went out of business on the evening of Friday March 14th.  What is surprising is that Bernanke and Geithner are still viewed as being responsible people who are part of the solution rather than being part of the problem.</p>
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		<title>By: Simon</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Simon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Feb 2009 07:31:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[See how easy it is to make an argument and post a reference? Ain&#039;t the inter net great?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>See how easy it is to make an argument and post a reference? Ain&#8217;t the inter net great?</p>
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		<title>By: Anarchus</title>
		<link>http://baselinescenario.com/2009/02/01/rahms-doctrine-and-breaking-up-the-banks/#comment-3172</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anarchus]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Feb 2009 02:24:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;d like to register my vehement objection to your assumption that Larry Summers and Rahm Emanuel (not to mention our tax challenged Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner) are any less likely to act in their own selfish interest than the thoroughly objectionable present managers of the bankrupt banks.

Your post assumes and suggests that its only the presence of the corrupt and powerful vested interests on Wall Street that have rigged the investment game, when that&#039;s just utterly false.  In a different industry but similar game, what exactly did Tom Daschle do to earn his millions as Chairman of InterMedia Partners?  Not much of anything as best I can tell  --  I mean, the not-reported-as-taxable-income car and driver were used 80% of the time for personal use!

Or go back and look at what happened to Brooksley Born in 1997-98 when she tried to get approval for the CFTC to regulate certain derivatives.  Some form of regulation was a great idea, but she was shot down by Greenspan, Robert Rubin and a powerful Treasury department figure who told her that her ideas could provoke a financial crisis.  Who was that?  Well, Larry Summers, that&#039;s who.  Given that history, why on earth do you assume that Larry Summers is going to do the right thing when using Rahm&#039;s Doctrine?

Don&#039;t believe me, please check out this URL:

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/09/business/economy/09greenspan.html]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d like to register my vehement objection to your assumption that Larry Summers and Rahm Emanuel (not to mention our tax challenged Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner) are any less likely to act in their own selfish interest than the thoroughly objectionable present managers of the bankrupt banks.</p>
<p>Your post assumes and suggests that its only the presence of the corrupt and powerful vested interests on Wall Street that have rigged the investment game, when that&#8217;s just utterly false.  In a different industry but similar game, what exactly did Tom Daschle do to earn his millions as Chairman of InterMedia Partners?  Not much of anything as best I can tell  &#8212;  I mean, the not-reported-as-taxable-income car and driver were used 80% of the time for personal use!</p>
<p>Or go back and look at what happened to Brooksley Born in 1997-98 when she tried to get approval for the CFTC to regulate certain derivatives.  Some form of regulation was a great idea, but she was shot down by Greenspan, Robert Rubin and a powerful Treasury department figure who told her that her ideas could provoke a financial crisis.  Who was that?  Well, Larry Summers, that&#8217;s who.  Given that history, why on earth do you assume that Larry Summers is going to do the right thing when using Rahm&#8217;s Doctrine?</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t believe me, please check out this URL:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/09/business/economy/09greenspan.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/09/business/economy/09greenspan.html</a></p>
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