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		<title>By: GloboTrends Community</title>
		<link>http://baselinescenario.com/2008/12/06/financial-crisis-causes-us-china-trade-imbalance/#comment-2694</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jan 2009 23:43:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] The process that led to the boom in risky assets was indirect: Central bank demand for safe assets drove down the return on safe assets and encouraged private sector risk taking. Private banks, famously, didn&#8217;t want to sit out the dance. James Kwak of The Baseline Scenario writes: [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] The process that led to the boom in risky assets was indirect: Central bank demand for safe assets drove down the return on safe assets and encouraged private sector risk taking. Private banks, famously, didn&#8217;t want to sit out the dance. James Kwak of The Baseline Scenario writes: [...]</p>
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		<title>By: The Baseline Scenario: Causes: Where Did All That Money Come From? &#187; Thoughts from the other side</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jan 2009 20:23:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Causes:  Where Did All That Money Come From?    &#160;   &#171; NYT: At G.M., Innovation Sacrificed to Profits &#124;   &#160; [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Causes:  Where Did All That Money Come From?    &nbsp;   &laquo; NYT: At G.M., Innovation Sacrificed to Profits |   &nbsp; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Causes: Economics &#171; The Baseline Scenario</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 11:15:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] of capitalism, including the process of making loans, did not work as it was supposed to.  Capital flows around the world proved much more destabilizing than even before (and we&#8217;ve seen some damaging capital flows [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] of capitalism, including the process of making loans, did not work as it was supposed to.  Capital flows around the world proved much more destabilizing than even before (and we&#8217;ve seen some damaging capital flows [...]</p>
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		<title>By: James Kwak</title>
		<link>http://baselinescenario.com/2008/12/06/financial-crisis-causes-us-china-trade-imbalance/#comment-1936</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[James Kwak]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2008 04:05:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The cost of money throughout the U.S. economy is a function of two things: the cost of money for the U.S. government (Treasury yields), and the perceived risk of whatever you are lending to relative to the U.S. government. The housing bubble was fueled by the fact that both of these were low: both the Treasury yields were low, and the perceived risk spreads were low. Lower Treasury yields translate into lower yields for everyone.

The question is still valid: if mortgage rates were 2% higher, would people have paid so much for houses? But I don&#039;t think you can answer the question that quickly. If you believe that the housing bubble was caused solely by option ARM loans with artificially low payments for the first year, then maybe. But a lot of the buying was being done by people with prime mortgages who were actually looking at their cash flow to decide how much house they could buy. When 30-year rates are around 6%, an increase of 2 percentage points means roughly 33% higher payments; put another way, instead of a $400,000 house, you can only buy a $300,000 house. (I know these figures are off because you have to look at the principal as well, but I don&#039;t feel like looking up a mortgage calculator at this hour.) That seems like a big difference to me.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The cost of money throughout the U.S. economy is a function of two things: the cost of money for the U.S. government (Treasury yields), and the perceived risk of whatever you are lending to relative to the U.S. government. The housing bubble was fueled by the fact that both of these were low: both the Treasury yields were low, and the perceived risk spreads were low. Lower Treasury yields translate into lower yields for everyone.</p>
<p>The question is still valid: if mortgage rates were 2% higher, would people have paid so much for houses? But I don&#8217;t think you can answer the question that quickly. If you believe that the housing bubble was caused solely by option ARM loans with artificially low payments for the first year, then maybe. But a lot of the buying was being done by people with prime mortgages who were actually looking at their cash flow to decide how much house they could buy. When 30-year rates are around 6%, an increase of 2 percentage points means roughly 33% higher payments; put another way, instead of a $400,000 house, you can only buy a $300,000 house. (I know these figures are off because you have to look at the principal as well, but I don&#8217;t feel like looking up a mortgage calculator at this hour.) That seems like a big difference to me.</p>
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		<title>By: John Wu</title>
		<link>http://baselinescenario.com/2008/12/06/financial-crisis-causes-us-china-trade-imbalance/#comment-1935</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John Wu]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2008 03:13:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Regarding the &quot;cause&quot; of the crisis, James Kwak confused the issue in a fundamental way.  The Chinese purchase of US treasuries have artificially kept US treasury rates low.  However, that does not translate into over-borrowing by US consumers.  First of all, we all know there is something called the &quot;credit spread&quot;. The fact that US governments can borrow at low rates from China does not imply banks should lend to deadbeat subprime borrowers at a low rate.  Secondly, bank lending standards are the main cause of the subprime problem, not that the rates are too low. It is issues such as &quot;liar loans&quot;, 0% down, adjustable rate mortgages, fake appraisals, etc.  If the subprime lending rates were 2% higher, would that have stopped the industry meltdown?  I don&#039;t think so.  Now, Mr. Zhou&#039;s comments are not quite right in getting to the cause of the financial crisis, but the blog here has followed the same stray path down to the wrong conclusion as well. As for the Chinese oversaving and investing in US treasuries, I agree that it&#039;s China&#039;s own choice.  However, I don&#039;t think that is necessarily a rational decision by an informed market participant.  The decision is unilaterally made by the central government, which means it is set to achieve policy goals (namely fully employment).  If we were talking about private sector players, the person who produces goods to sell it cheaply and then turn around to finance the consumer with cheap loans won&#039;t be doing it for long.  There is a Chinese saying called &quot;drinking poison to stop the thirst.&quot;  Unfortunately, that is what the Chinese government is doing.  At some point, the US money printing press will wipe out the value of US treasuries held by the Chinese government.  Well, that simply constitutes the biggest wealth transfer in the history of world.  As a Chinese, I feel sad to see that happen.  Unfortunately, I don&#039;t see anyway out of it now.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regarding the &#8220;cause&#8221; of the crisis, James Kwak confused the issue in a fundamental way.  The Chinese purchase of US treasuries have artificially kept US treasury rates low.  However, that does not translate into over-borrowing by US consumers.  First of all, we all know there is something called the &#8220;credit spread&#8221;. The fact that US governments can borrow at low rates from China does not imply banks should lend to deadbeat subprime borrowers at a low rate.  Secondly, bank lending standards are the main cause of the subprime problem, not that the rates are too low. It is issues such as &#8220;liar loans&#8221;, 0% down, adjustable rate mortgages, fake appraisals, etc.  If the subprime lending rates were 2% higher, would that have stopped the industry meltdown?  I don&#8217;t think so.  Now, Mr. Zhou&#8217;s comments are not quite right in getting to the cause of the financial crisis, but the blog here has followed the same stray path down to the wrong conclusion as well. As for the Chinese oversaving and investing in US treasuries, I agree that it&#8217;s China&#8217;s own choice.  However, I don&#8217;t think that is necessarily a rational decision by an informed market participant.  The decision is unilaterally made by the central government, which means it is set to achieve policy goals (namely fully employment).  If we were talking about private sector players, the person who produces goods to sell it cheaply and then turn around to finance the consumer with cheap loans won&#8217;t be doing it for long.  There is a Chinese saying called &#8220;drinking poison to stop the thirst.&#8221;  Unfortunately, that is what the Chinese government is doing.  At some point, the US money printing press will wipe out the value of US treasuries held by the Chinese government.  Well, that simply constitutes the biggest wealth transfer in the history of world.  As a Chinese, I feel sad to see that happen.  Unfortunately, I don&#8217;t see anyway out of it now.</p>
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		<title>By: Quinton BC</title>
		<link>http://baselinescenario.com/2008/12/06/financial-crisis-causes-us-china-trade-imbalance/#comment-1864</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Quinton BC]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Dec 2008 20:31:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The interesting thing is that China&#039;s decision to invest the US Dollars it acquires via its fixed e.r. policy shrinks the US money supply.  This raises domestic interest rates and thus domestic returns, which lowers our exchange rate, which China has to correct for by lowering their money supply.  Seems like the net effect of the policy is null, or at least much weaker than intended.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The interesting thing is that China&#8217;s decision to invest the US Dollars it acquires via its fixed e.r. policy shrinks the US money supply.  This raises domestic interest rates and thus domestic returns, which lowers our exchange rate, which China has to correct for by lowering their money supply.  Seems like the net effect of the policy is null, or at least much weaker than intended.</p>
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		<title>By: Adam</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Adam]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Dec 2008 16:14:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;I don’t recall anyone “forcing” the US to accept foreign currency financing of their debt, nor forcing people to expand household debt to 140% of their assets, so is this criticism not backwards? &lt;/i&gt;

Nobody forced American&#039;s because it was forced on us. You see, China never lent American&#039;s foreign money.  China lent American&#039;s American dollars.  Let me explain exactly how this worked...

American’s buy Chinese goods with US dollars and US dollars go to China.  In China, no business or person is allowed to keep US dollars, they are forced to hand them over to the Chinese government at a fixed exchange rate.  Now the Chinese government has a couple options: they can buy US goods with their dollars; they can buy dollar denominated products like oil; or they can unload their dollars in the foreign currency markets.  Because we have a trade deficit with China, they always end up with left over dollars so they need to put them somewhere.  Well since they don’t want their renminbi to appreciate in value they can’t or wont exchange them on the foreign currency market which is exactly what would happen if they did.  SO, what does China do with all those US dollars, they ship them over to the US to buy into US investment and treasury markets.  So, yes China did force those dollars on us because they choose NOT to allow the renminbi to appreciate by dumping them on the foreign currency market which is what true capitalism calls for.  It does take two to tango!!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>I don’t recall anyone “forcing” the US to accept foreign currency financing of their debt, nor forcing people to expand household debt to 140% of their assets, so is this criticism not backwards? </i></p>
<p>Nobody forced American&#8217;s because it was forced on us. You see, China never lent American&#8217;s foreign money.  China lent American&#8217;s American dollars.  Let me explain exactly how this worked&#8230;</p>
<p>American’s buy Chinese goods with US dollars and US dollars go to China.  In China, no business or person is allowed to keep US dollars, they are forced to hand them over to the Chinese government at a fixed exchange rate.  Now the Chinese government has a couple options: they can buy US goods with their dollars; they can buy dollar denominated products like oil; or they can unload their dollars in the foreign currency markets.  Because we have a trade deficit with China, they always end up with left over dollars so they need to put them somewhere.  Well since they don’t want their renminbi to appreciate in value they can’t or wont exchange them on the foreign currency market which is exactly what would happen if they did.  SO, what does China do with all those US dollars, they ship them over to the US to buy into US investment and treasury markets.  So, yes China did force those dollars on us because they choose NOT to allow the renminbi to appreciate by dumping them on the foreign currency market which is what true capitalism calls for.  It does take two to tango!!!</p>
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		<title>By: eRobin</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[eRobin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Dec 2008 14:52:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;Would we not be in better economic shape globally if the US had tightened its monetary policy a lot more in the late 1990s and early 2000’s as that should have reduced consumption and increased savings in the US while at the same time ‘encouraging” China to focus even more on ways to encourage domestic consumption?&lt;/I&gt;

We don&#039;t make anything in the US - we consume.  Tightening the belt doesn&#039;t work when it&#039;s wrapped around our throats, as we&#039;re seeing now.  And yet you&#039;ve got people rooting for the demise of the US auto industry b/c they hate unions.  I don&#039;t get it.

As for boosting China&#039;s domestic demand, of course, that&#039;s China&#039;s plan. It will also mean the destruction of the US if we haven&#039;t brought back a manufacturing base by then.  Tick tock.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Would we not be in better economic shape globally if the US had tightened its monetary policy a lot more in the late 1990s and early 2000’s as that should have reduced consumption and increased savings in the US while at the same time ‘encouraging” China to focus even more on ways to encourage domestic consumption?</i></p>
<p>We don&#8217;t make anything in the US &#8211; we consume.  Tightening the belt doesn&#8217;t work when it&#8217;s wrapped around our throats, as we&#8217;re seeing now.  And yet you&#8217;ve got people rooting for the demise of the US auto industry b/c they hate unions.  I don&#8217;t get it.</p>
<p>As for boosting China&#8217;s domestic demand, of course, that&#8217;s China&#8217;s plan. It will also mean the destruction of the US if we haven&#8217;t brought back a manufacturing base by then.  Tick tock.</p>
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		<title>By: John2</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John2]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Dec 2008 05:15:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I reread this post and I sound like a grouchy old man. Although I&#039;m not that old.....LOL

But no one seems to understand the difference between investing and speculating. And how this crisis has has its seeds in 30 years of forgotten, web-like, interconnected history. There is some kind of amnesia afoot and it&#039;s very strange indeed.

To refresh all you young whippersnappers:

The recycled petrodollars of the late 70&#039;s energy crisis helped feed the Japanesse bubble/burst economy which simulatiniously scared the hell out of China and started them down a path of economic changes that damn bubble and burst  feed dollars back into the US and abetted the asian currency crisis of the late 90s which is connected to that dislocation that fed more fleeing wealth back to the US for diminishing returns on bonds, which gave a good mojo to jack up the dot com bubble that almost but not quite got a chance to bust and beal before it was rescued by greenspan&#039;s reckless, mindless, vacuuous response to 9/11 and the half decade of free money that forced everyone to take that dough, swallow that dough, choke on that dough. It was Free Money as Patti Smith says.

But back to the forgotten definition of investor and speculator. An investor makes a return on cash flow. A speculator makes a return on capital gain. It&#039;s a simple distinction. An easy one really. 

But this last 15 years has been hell on an investor trying to make a real cash flow living. Impossible in fact.

Investors, and I lump my self in this class, could only speculate. We could not invest. There needs to be adequate cash flow returns to investors in order for there to be saving. Why save if money is free and there are no rewards for saving? Everyone has to become a speculator. It&#039;s not so crazy. It&#039;s not so mysterious. It&#039;s not so amoral. Think it through. Bank savings account -- 0.00125% return or 2% mortgage bet on a house price appreciation. I&#039;d still take the 2% mortgage. So would you. 

You guys are overthinking it. Over the last 20 years you were burned if you saved and rewarded if you speculated.

No one seems to know the difference anymore. How sad. 

Oh, and China still remembers the Opium Wars like they were yesterday. If I were Chinesse, I would want to get even...... but that&#039;s another post.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I reread this post and I sound like a grouchy old man. Although I&#8217;m not that old&#8230;..LOL</p>
<p>But no one seems to understand the difference between investing and speculating. And how this crisis has has its seeds in 30 years of forgotten, web-like, interconnected history. There is some kind of amnesia afoot and it&#8217;s very strange indeed.</p>
<p>To refresh all you young whippersnappers:</p>
<p>The recycled petrodollars of the late 70&#8242;s energy crisis helped feed the Japanesse bubble/burst economy which simulatiniously scared the hell out of China and started them down a path of economic changes that damn bubble and burst  feed dollars back into the US and abetted the asian currency crisis of the late 90s which is connected to that dislocation that fed more fleeing wealth back to the US for diminishing returns on bonds, which gave a good mojo to jack up the dot com bubble that almost but not quite got a chance to bust and beal before it was rescued by greenspan&#8217;s reckless, mindless, vacuuous response to 9/11 and the half decade of free money that forced everyone to take that dough, swallow that dough, choke on that dough. It was Free Money as Patti Smith says.</p>
<p>But back to the forgotten definition of investor and speculator. An investor makes a return on cash flow. A speculator makes a return on capital gain. It&#8217;s a simple distinction. An easy one really. </p>
<p>But this last 15 years has been hell on an investor trying to make a real cash flow living. Impossible in fact.</p>
<p>Investors, and I lump my self in this class, could only speculate. We could not invest. There needs to be adequate cash flow returns to investors in order for there to be saving. Why save if money is free and there are no rewards for saving? Everyone has to become a speculator. It&#8217;s not so crazy. It&#8217;s not so mysterious. It&#8217;s not so amoral. Think it through. Bank savings account &#8212; 0.00125% return or 2% mortgage bet on a house price appreciation. I&#8217;d still take the 2% mortgage. So would you. </p>
<p>You guys are overthinking it. Over the last 20 years you were burned if you saved and rewarded if you speculated.</p>
<p>No one seems to know the difference anymore. How sad. </p>
<p>Oh, and China still remembers the Opium Wars like they were yesterday. If I were Chinesse, I would want to get even&#8230;&#8230; but that&#8217;s another post.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Dec 2008 02:09:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Which came first, the chicken or the egg?

If the US didn&#039;t start the Greenspan credit expansion in the first place, China wouldn&#039;t be able to accumulate such large Forex reserves in the first place.  Japan also contributed with the carry trade.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Which came first, the chicken or the egg?</p>
<p>If the US didn&#8217;t start the Greenspan credit expansion in the first place, China wouldn&#8217;t be able to accumulate such large Forex reserves in the first place.  Japan also contributed with the carry trade.</p>
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		<title>By: pillip</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[pillip]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Dec 2008 19:11:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Forget the over-determination argument. It is not applicable here.  Causation of any single event can rarely be determined by  statistical analysis.  The determination of causation in a financial crisis is a deductive process.

There are valuable lessons to be learned (or more accurately relearned)from a careful analysis of events that lead up to the current financial crisis.  If we don&#039;t analyze what went wrong and take corrective action, we will soon be confronted by another similar crisis (the old lessons of history argument).

The principal economic view of the Republican party since Reagan was elected President has been that unfettered, unregulated markets are efficient in allocating resources and lead to stable equilibria in markets. Acting on this belief, Bush allowed the opaque unregulated shadow global banking system to evolve into a behemoth(on the order of $10 trillion in assets) large enough to challenge the regulated banking system and take significant market share.  In the end, this shadow banking system came to pose enormous systematic risks to the global economy (see: http://www.newyorkfed.org/newsevents/speeches/2008/tfg080609.html for a discussion by Geithner of the nature of this risk) and proved to be unstable in the face of a series of relatively small shocks (the sub-prime crisis).  The Lehman bankruptcy caused a massive run on the then teetering shadow banking system that required a massive government intervention in capital markets to prevent the total collapse of the global financial system. 

The are a lot of lessons that needed to be relearned here.  The process begins by analyzing what went wrong and isolating the primary causes of the crisis.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Forget the over-determination argument. It is not applicable here.  Causation of any single event can rarely be determined by  statistical analysis.  The determination of causation in a financial crisis is a deductive process.</p>
<p>There are valuable lessons to be learned (or more accurately relearned)from a careful analysis of events that lead up to the current financial crisis.  If we don&#8217;t analyze what went wrong and take corrective action, we will soon be confronted by another similar crisis (the old lessons of history argument).</p>
<p>The principal economic view of the Republican party since Reagan was elected President has been that unfettered, unregulated markets are efficient in allocating resources and lead to stable equilibria in markets. Acting on this belief, Bush allowed the opaque unregulated shadow global banking system to evolve into a behemoth(on the order of $10 trillion in assets) large enough to challenge the regulated banking system and take significant market share.  In the end, this shadow banking system came to pose enormous systematic risks to the global economy (see: <a href="http://www.newyorkfed.org/newsevents/speeches/2008/tfg080609.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.newyorkfed.org/newsevents/speeches/2008/tfg080609.html</a> for a discussion by Geithner of the nature of this risk) and proved to be unstable in the face of a series of relatively small shocks (the sub-prime crisis).  The Lehman bankruptcy caused a massive run on the then teetering shadow banking system that required a massive government intervention in capital markets to prevent the total collapse of the global financial system. </p>
<p>The are a lot of lessons that needed to be relearned here.  The process begins by analyzing what went wrong and isolating the primary causes of the crisis.</p>
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		<title>By: Interesting Reads - Dec 07 &#124; OneMint</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Interesting Reads - Dec 07 &#124; OneMint]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Dec 2008 16:33:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Causes of the current crisis: Baseline Scenario explores possible causes of the current crisis and source of fund.   Share and [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Causes of the current crisis: Baseline Scenario explores possible causes of the current crisis and source of fund.   Share and [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Chandran</title>
		<link>http://baselinescenario.com/2008/12/06/financial-crisis-causes-us-china-trade-imbalance/#comment-1823</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Dec 2008 15:36:53 +0000</pubDate>
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Can you explain how the dollar value gains or loses against other currency? Is it that simple other countries try to buy more dollar and keep it as reserve? In this case US economy is in recession and why there is a demand for dollar now? Or do other countries buy US treasury bonds now that put the dollar on demand now? How does dollar vaues get affected in respect to oil price?]]></description>
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<p>Can you explain how the dollar value gains or loses against other currency? Is it that simple other countries try to buy more dollar and keep it as reserve? In this case US economy is in recession and why there is a demand for dollar now? Or do other countries buy US treasury bonds now that put the dollar on demand now? How does dollar vaues get affected in respect to oil price?</p>
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		<title>By: Edgar</title>
		<link>http://baselinescenario.com/2008/12/06/financial-crisis-causes-us-china-trade-imbalance/#comment-1822</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Edgar]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Dec 2008 15:35:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It is could be certainly true that China is intervening on foreign currency markets to keep its currency low.  But it could be true that these actions are mere complement of China competitive advantage of low prices due to the low cost of labor.  GDP / person is roughly $5,000 (adjusted PPP). This huge difference (China GDP / person is 10% of USA GDP /person) could be more significant than the difference on their currency. In addition China core competences are fuel by International corporations that have established operations in China.  We can speculate these corporations are teaching Chinese how to work better and how to improve the quality of products so they can do it by themselves later.  So, the exports from China may continue and even may grow uncontrollable especially if we enter into a deflationary period.  To further establish a better trade balance with China we may need to focus and invest in more research to improve the productivity of our people that will increase our competitive advantage. This could create more jobs, save more works, and eventually competitive more fairly with China.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is could be certainly true that China is intervening on foreign currency markets to keep its currency low.  But it could be true that these actions are mere complement of China competitive advantage of low prices due to the low cost of labor.  GDP / person is roughly $5,000 (adjusted PPP). This huge difference (China GDP / person is 10% of USA GDP /person) could be more significant than the difference on their currency. In addition China core competences are fuel by International corporations that have established operations in China.  We can speculate these corporations are teaching Chinese how to work better and how to improve the quality of products so they can do it by themselves later.  So, the exports from China may continue and even may grow uncontrollable especially if we enter into a deflationary period.  To further establish a better trade balance with China we may need to focus and invest in more research to improve the productivity of our people that will increase our competitive advantage. This could create more jobs, save more works, and eventually competitive more fairly with China.</p>
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		<title>By: James Kwak</title>
		<link>http://baselinescenario.com/2008/12/06/financial-crisis-causes-us-china-trade-imbalance/#comment-1821</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[James Kwak]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Dec 2008 14:15:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[_caustic: I&#039;m not sure you wanted a serious response, but here&#039;s a quick one anyway. Printing money and issuing new debt are actually the opposite of each other. If the Fed prints money, it doesn&#039;t need anyone to buy anything. If Treasury issues debt, then it does need someone to buy it. But precisely because U.S. saving is going up, most of the money to buy that debt can come from domestic sources. We needed foreigners to buy our debt in the past precisely because we weren&#039;t saving.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>_caustic: I&#8217;m not sure you wanted a serious response, but here&#8217;s a quick one anyway. Printing money and issuing new debt are actually the opposite of each other. If the Fed prints money, it doesn&#8217;t need anyone to buy anything. If Treasury issues debt, then it does need someone to buy it. But precisely because U.S. saving is going up, most of the money to buy that debt can come from domestic sources. We needed foreigners to buy our debt in the past precisely because we weren&#8217;t saving.</p>
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