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		<title>By: Industria automovilística europea: la agonía ha empezado - Page 4 - Burbuja Económica</title>
		<link>http://baselinescenario.com/2008/11/16/g20-summit-just-disappointing-or-potentially-dangerous/#comment-2385</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Industria automovilística europea: la agonía ha empezado - Page 4 - Burbuja Económica]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Jan 2009 08:22:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] a lot like the kind of uncoordinated policy response that can further destabilize the situation.   The G20 had sensible anti-protectionist language in its November communique, but this was rather high level. Clarification from the French/British leadership of the G20 would [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] a lot like the kind of uncoordinated policy response that can further destabilize the situation.   The G20 had sensible anti-protectionist language in its November communique, but this was rather high level. Clarification from the French/British leadership of the G20 would [...]</p>
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		<title>By: RealTime Economic Issues Watch</title>
		<link>http://baselinescenario.com/2008/11/16/g20-summit-just-disappointing-or-potentially-dangerous/#comment-2331</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[RealTime Economic Issues Watch]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2008 23:39:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] G-20 had sensible anti-protectionist language in its November communique, but this was rather high level. Clarification from the French/British leadership of the G-20 would [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: Ram Kumar Gupta</title>
		<link>http://baselinescenario.com/2008/11/16/g20-summit-just-disappointing-or-potentially-dangerous/#comment-1330</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ram Kumar Gupta]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 09:13:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The exercise of G-20 is only a eye wash and making the public fool showing that everybody is concerned with gravity of situation and shall do somthing. What Somthing is not known to any body. It is like this that &quot;A girl (Economy) has been raped; Finance Ministers of the world (Police) is making all the efforts to catch the culprit who is standing before them (execeesive borrowing with no regulation control)but no body dares to catch him. 

Friends, The CEO of all these companies be sacked and recover all the remunerations in shape of bonus paid to them during last three years and let the companies be declared insolvent. Let the owners suffer for the lossess. Their personal assets be impounded and the money of the depositors be protected at all cost. Why the general public should suffer from the ill deeds of these smart CEO and also rating agencies be penalised as they also failed to know the nerve of the economy becuase they were interested in their huge fees and consequently huge bonus amount to CEOs.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The exercise of G-20 is only a eye wash and making the public fool showing that everybody is concerned with gravity of situation and shall do somthing. What Somthing is not known to any body. It is like this that &#8220;A girl (Economy) has been raped; Finance Ministers of the world (Police) is making all the efforts to catch the culprit who is standing before them (execeesive borrowing with no regulation control)but no body dares to catch him. </p>
<p>Friends, The CEO of all these companies be sacked and recover all the remunerations in shape of bonus paid to them during last three years and let the companies be declared insolvent. Let the owners suffer for the lossess. Their personal assets be impounded and the money of the depositors be protected at all cost. Why the general public should suffer from the ill deeds of these smart CEO and also rating agencies be penalised as they also failed to know the nerve of the economy becuase they were interested in their huge fees and consequently huge bonus amount to CEOs.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew vonN</title>
		<link>http://baselinescenario.com/2008/11/16/g20-summit-just-disappointing-or-potentially-dangerous/#comment-1269</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Andrew vonN]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 20:39:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Just in regards to Craig Heymark&#039;s last point:
I&#039;m not sure that a partnership form would change things much, since you can&#039;t have the whole financial system organized as partnerships. Lending firms (i.e., commercial banks) basically haven&#039;t been partnerships since forever and they too have gotten in lots of trouble. But they are cushioned by (a) regular lending business and (b) regulations on capital requirements. The separation between investment banking and commercial banking was always artificial (Glass-Steagall) -- and since its repeal, i-banks had been steadily heading into mergers with publicly-traded commercial banks.
Frankly, I&#039;d rather see risk mitigated by capital requirements than by relying indirectly on some privately-chosen legal form like the partnership.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just in regards to Craig Heymark&#8217;s last point:<br />
I&#8217;m not sure that a partnership form would change things much, since you can&#8217;t have the whole financial system organized as partnerships. Lending firms (i.e., commercial banks) basically haven&#8217;t been partnerships since forever and they too have gotten in lots of trouble. But they are cushioned by (a) regular lending business and (b) regulations on capital requirements. The separation between investment banking and commercial banking was always artificial (Glass-Steagall) &#8212; and since its repeal, i-banks had been steadily heading into mergers with publicly-traded commercial banks.<br />
Frankly, I&#8217;d rather see risk mitigated by capital requirements than by relying indirectly on some privately-chosen legal form like the partnership.</p>
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		<title>By: Craig Heimark</title>
		<link>http://baselinescenario.com/2008/11/16/g20-summit-just-disappointing-or-potentially-dangerous/#comment-1235</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Craig Heimark]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 09:34:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree with your concern that short term action by the authorities may excessively focus on financial regulation in a desperate attempt to â€œpunish the guilty.â€  In reality any new regulation while important for long term financial stability will not do anything to get the economy moving again.

That said, given the political nature of politics, it might be best to try to refocus the zeal for short term regulatory reform on establishing simple, workable principles that can then be enacted by the various country specific regulators rather than trying to fight it.

Here are my suggestions for a few simple regulatory principles that would lead to significantly safer global financial system.

Regulatory capital charges should be based on systemic risk, not solely on market risk factors. By definition, an instrument that is traded in the OTC market that is contractually identical to a listed exchange instrument has identical market risk characteristics.  But by now, it should be obvious that the lack of transparency, liquidity and credit and risk netting facility that are proved by an exchange make the OTC instruments far more likely to cause systemic damage.  Hence capital charges for OTC instruments must reflect this lack of transparency and netting facilities by appropriately higher capital charges. 

Consolidate regulators to ensure consistency and eliminate regulatory arbitrage.  It seems too much to expect consistent global regulation, but the fragmented regulatory structures especially in the United States are anachronistic at best.  Most financial firms sell multiple products in multiple geographies.  If they have the same risks they should have the same regulator. The spurious distinction between insurance companies and Investment Banks was clearly exposed by the AIG bailout.  The myriad product specific and state specific regulatory structure should be dismantled and replaced by only a few regulatory agencies that are given broad mandates.

Regulatory charges should be based upon company form.  Michael Lewis wrote a good piece that can be summarized as Investment Banking went down the wrong path when it abandoned itâ€™s long help partnership form.  Perhaps more relevant is a corollary that the systemic risk of firm balance sheet exposures are markedly increased when the incentives are misaligned.  We are all aware of the discussion of the pitfalls of the current bonus system where it is often a heads I win, tails the government steps in.  Partnership structures are inherently safer because the entire net wealth of the general partners adds a layer of funds that can be called upon before taxpayers are forced to bail out the errant firm.  I am philosophically opposed to current proposals to have the government determine the â€œfairâ€ pay of senior executives.  But, at the same time, we all need to understand that general partnerships and perhaps equivalent restricted stock type payment schemes align incentives far better than current systems and provide another layer of at risk capital before calling on public funds.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with your concern that short term action by the authorities may excessively focus on financial regulation in a desperate attempt to â€œpunish the guilty.â€  In reality any new regulation while important for long term financial stability will not do anything to get the economy moving again.</p>
<p>That said, given the political nature of politics, it might be best to try to refocus the zeal for short term regulatory reform on establishing simple, workable principles that can then be enacted by the various country specific regulators rather than trying to fight it.</p>
<p>Here are my suggestions for a few simple regulatory principles that would lead to significantly safer global financial system.</p>
<p>Regulatory capital charges should be based on systemic risk, not solely on market risk factors. By definition, an instrument that is traded in the OTC market that is contractually identical to a listed exchange instrument has identical market risk characteristics.  But by now, it should be obvious that the lack of transparency, liquidity and credit and risk netting facility that are proved by an exchange make the OTC instruments far more likely to cause systemic damage.  Hence capital charges for OTC instruments must reflect this lack of transparency and netting facilities by appropriately higher capital charges. </p>
<p>Consolidate regulators to ensure consistency and eliminate regulatory arbitrage.  It seems too much to expect consistent global regulation, but the fragmented regulatory structures especially in the United States are anachronistic at best.  Most financial firms sell multiple products in multiple geographies.  If they have the same risks they should have the same regulator. The spurious distinction between insurance companies and Investment Banks was clearly exposed by the AIG bailout.  The myriad product specific and state specific regulatory structure should be dismantled and replaced by only a few regulatory agencies that are given broad mandates.</p>
<p>Regulatory charges should be based upon company form.  Michael Lewis wrote a good piece that can be summarized as Investment Banking went down the wrong path when it abandoned itâ€™s long help partnership form.  Perhaps more relevant is a corollary that the systemic risk of firm balance sheet exposures are markedly increased when the incentives are misaligned.  We are all aware of the discussion of the pitfalls of the current bonus system where it is often a heads I win, tails the government steps in.  Partnership structures are inherently safer because the entire net wealth of the general partners adds a layer of funds that can be called upon before taxpayers are forced to bail out the errant firm.  I am philosophically opposed to current proposals to have the government determine the â€œfairâ€ pay of senior executives.  But, at the same time, we all need to understand that general partnerships and perhaps equivalent restricted stock type payment schemes align incentives far better than current systems and provide another layer of at risk capital before calling on public funds.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill W.</title>
		<link>http://baselinescenario.com/2008/11/16/g20-summit-just-disappointing-or-potentially-dangerous/#comment-1204</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bill W.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Nov 2008 22:01:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[No one will work or do any dealmaking with Bush, neither domestically nor internationally....you are correct this delay is a major issue.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No one will work or do any dealmaking with Bush, neither domestically nor internationally&#8230;.you are correct this delay is a major issue.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom K</title>
		<link>http://baselinescenario.com/2008/11/16/g20-summit-just-disappointing-or-potentially-dangerous/#comment-1203</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tom K]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Nov 2008 21:18:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If new regulatory systems are implemented which provide transparecy to markets (derivative markets) which have been opaque in the past, I say more power to them.  

But really!  How fast can the world actually come up with a new regulatory system?  How long will it take for disagreeing powers to debate and hammer out a consensus?  Can we really expect the entire  world to agree on something this complex and obscure before the end of 2009?  

I say, get started now because it will take a while before it can be agreed upon and implemented.      

And when new regulations are in force, hopefully lenders can be assured that they know what is the financial health of entities they are lending to.  

I agree that stimulus plans are the most important tactic at this point.  For little progress on that front, we can blame the Bush administration.  Bush and his administration could have demonstrated leadership by stating at the G-20 that they were dedicated to working with Congress and the incoming administration to tailor a large stimulus package in the U.S.  Even if it could not be completed immediately, at least they could have started working on it.  Instead we are losing two precious months, waiting for Obama to take over.  The economy will likely degrade precipitously in that time.  

If the U.S. had stated its intent to launch a new stimulus package with a ball park figure, it would likely have inspired other nations to do likewise.  

Thanks, Dubya.  You&#039;ve been a real boon to the world.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If new regulatory systems are implemented which provide transparecy to markets (derivative markets) which have been opaque in the past, I say more power to them.  </p>
<p>But really!  How fast can the world actually come up with a new regulatory system?  How long will it take for disagreeing powers to debate and hammer out a consensus?  Can we really expect the entire  world to agree on something this complex and obscure before the end of 2009?  </p>
<p>I say, get started now because it will take a while before it can be agreed upon and implemented.      </p>
<p>And when new regulations are in force, hopefully lenders can be assured that they know what is the financial health of entities they are lending to.  </p>
<p>I agree that stimulus plans are the most important tactic at this point.  For little progress on that front, we can blame the Bush administration.  Bush and his administration could have demonstrated leadership by stating at the G-20 that they were dedicated to working with Congress and the incoming administration to tailor a large stimulus package in the U.S.  Even if it could not be completed immediately, at least they could have started working on it.  Instead we are losing two precious months, waiting for Obama to take over.  The economy will likely degrade precipitously in that time.  </p>
<p>If the U.S. had stated its intent to launch a new stimulus package with a ball park figure, it would likely have inspired other nations to do likewise.  </p>
<p>Thanks, Dubya.  You&#8217;ve been a real boon to the world.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Rose</title>
		<link>http://baselinescenario.com/2008/11/16/g20-summit-just-disappointing-or-potentially-dangerous/#comment-1199</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mark Rose]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Nov 2008 19:55:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Any Austrian economist will tell you that debt-financed stimulus is one of the major causes of the problem in the first place. Read up on the Austrian Business Cycle to know why artificially lowered interest rates created this economic collapse.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Any Austrian economist will tell you that debt-financed stimulus is one of the major causes of the problem in the first place. Read up on the Austrian Business Cycle to know why artificially lowered interest rates created this economic collapse.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill W.</title>
		<link>http://baselinescenario.com/2008/11/16/g20-summit-just-disappointing-or-potentially-dangerous/#comment-1193</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bill W.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Nov 2008 18:16:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The G20 meeting, for all intents and puposes, was a photo-op at best. Hopefully, when the next meeting reconvenes on day 101 of the Obama administration  prepared, coordinated, large stimulative (and well-directed) fiscal packages will be instituted. There is, of course, a very strong chance that the global economic crisis will accelerate even more sharply to the downside by then... and, once again, be reactive and not proactive and hence of insuffient influence so that again policy actione are way behind the curve.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The G20 meeting, for all intents and puposes, was a photo-op at best. Hopefully, when the next meeting reconvenes on day 101 of the Obama administration  prepared, coordinated, large stimulative (and well-directed) fiscal packages will be instituted. There is, of course, a very strong chance that the global economic crisis will accelerate even more sharply to the downside by then&#8230; and, once again, be reactive and not proactive and hence of insuffient influence so that again policy actione are way behind the curve.</p>
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		<title>By: Dr O</title>
		<link>http://baselinescenario.com/2008/11/16/g20-summit-just-disappointing-or-potentially-dangerous/#comment-1187</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dr O]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Nov 2008 16:57:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[From 30,000 feet, it looks like these regulatory measures are specifically meant to satisfy Europe. Hopefully, this statement or the symbolic gestures that follow it (without requiring implementation of tight regulations in the midst of the credit crisis), will be sufficient to move Europe out of an &quot;I told you so&quot; attitude and into the direction of cooperating with the US in efforts to organize a global strategy.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From 30,000 feet, it looks like these regulatory measures are specifically meant to satisfy Europe. Hopefully, this statement or the symbolic gestures that follow it (without requiring implementation of tight regulations in the midst of the credit crisis), will be sufficient to move Europe out of an &#8220;I told you so&#8221; attitude and into the direction of cooperating with the US in efforts to organize a global strategy.</p>
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		<title>By: Chandran</title>
		<link>http://baselinescenario.com/2008/11/16/g20-summit-just-disappointing-or-potentially-dangerous/#comment-1186</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chandran]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Nov 2008 16:54:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Still I could not understand the outcome of this meeting. Apart from promises ( Regulations) what they are going to do tomorrow to resolve this crisis. Can some one explain me in few lines in lay mans words?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Still I could not understand the outcome of this meeting. Apart from promises ( Regulations) what they are going to do tomorrow to resolve this crisis. Can some one explain me in few lines in lay mans words?</p>
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		<title>By: donthelibertariandemocrat</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[donthelibertariandemocrat]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Nov 2008 15:45:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I read through it, and it seemed to be simply a statement of the kind of world we&#039;d like to live in. There didn&#039;t seem to be anything to argue with, because there weren&#039;t any specifics. What was the point? Why not just say we&#039;ll try and do things better in the future?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I read through it, and it seemed to be simply a statement of the kind of world we&#8217;d like to live in. There didn&#8217;t seem to be anything to argue with, because there weren&#8217;t any specifics. What was the point? Why not just say we&#8217;ll try and do things better in the future?</p>
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