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		<title>By: January 12, 2009 &#171; Rising in Phoenix</title>
		<link>http://baselinescenario.com/2008/11/08/henry-paulson-bailout-legacy/#comment-2596</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jan 2009 16:13:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] know I sound like a Paulson apologist (although here are my anti-Paulson credentials), but here [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] know I sound like a Paulson apologist (although here are my anti-Paulson credentials), but here [...]</p>
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		<title>By: James Kwak</title>
		<link>http://baselinescenario.com/2008/11/08/henry-paulson-bailout-legacy/#comment-1270</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[James Kwak]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 22:11:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[DCLawyer: I agree with you. See the testimony by Albert Lo that I linked to in a recent post. Deregulation, meaning the dismantling of existing regulation, has probably been less of a factor than the failure of regulation to keep up with change in the financial system - notably new types of products and new ways of moving exposures off your balance sheet.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DCLawyer: I agree with you. See the testimony by Albert Lo that I linked to in a recent post. Deregulation, meaning the dismantling of existing regulation, has probably been less of a factor than the failure of regulation to keep up with change in the financial system &#8211; notably new types of products and new ways of moving exposures off your balance sheet.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
		<link>http://baselinescenario.com/2008/11/08/henry-paulson-bailout-legacy/#comment-1256</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 18:51:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What do we really expect? Congress gave Paulson authority the authority to do as he decides is important. Congress has failed us again just like they did during the run up to war.  As usual they are PASSING THE BUCK.

http://nomedals.blogspot.com]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What do we really expect? Congress gave Paulson authority the authority to do as he decides is important. Congress has failed us again just like they did during the run up to war.  As usual they are PASSING THE BUCK.</p>
<p><a href="http://nomedals.blogspot.com" rel="nofollow">http://nomedals.blogspot.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: DCLawyer</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 16:28:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[James,

Thanks much for that rundown.  I&#039;d note that many of the items you list are actually non-regulation or failed regulation rather than de-regulation, i.e. it&#039;s not that we changed something that had been right before.  This includes financial derivatives, which were exempted from regulation when similar markets were regulated in the late 1990s.  I make the distinction because I am concerned that some wish to scapegoat certain measures that actually proved very beneficial, e.g. Gramm-Leach-Bliley.

I don&#039;t want to say that we don&#039;t need better regulation and in some cases more regulation.  Some past decisions not to regulate have also been problematic.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>James,</p>
<p>Thanks much for that rundown.  I&#8217;d note that many of the items you list are actually non-regulation or failed regulation rather than de-regulation, i.e. it&#8217;s not that we changed something that had been right before.  This includes financial derivatives, which were exempted from regulation when similar markets were regulated in the late 1990s.  I make the distinction because I am concerned that some wish to scapegoat certain measures that actually proved very beneficial, e.g. Gramm-Leach-Bliley.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t want to say that we don&#8217;t need better regulation and in some cases more regulation.  Some past decisions not to regulate have also been problematic.</p>
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		<title>By: James Kwak</title>
		<link>http://baselinescenario.com/2008/11/08/henry-paulson-bailout-legacy/#comment-953</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[James Kwak]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 03:46:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[DCLawyer: The Economist article actually agrees you; its point is that deregulation on balance has done more good than harm. I agree that over the long run, deregulation has had many positive effects. I happen to think that a little less deregulation would have been even better. Here are a few problems:
1. The lack of regulation of derivatives, particularly credit default swaps - and in particular the explicit rejection of regulation in 2000.
2. The failure of state regulators to rein in the predatory lending practices of the last several years.
3. The failure of bank regulators to monitor the health of banks.
4. Basel II and the idea of letting banks use their own models to determine their capital requirements.
5. The failure to adjust capital requirements to account for off-balance sheet exposures.

It was not so much an issue of regulations being explicitly repealed, of regulators failing to keep pace with innovation in financial products.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DCLawyer: The Economist article actually agrees you; its point is that deregulation on balance has done more good than harm. I agree that over the long run, deregulation has had many positive effects. I happen to think that a little less deregulation would have been even better. Here are a few problems:<br />
1. The lack of regulation of derivatives, particularly credit default swaps &#8211; and in particular the explicit rejection of regulation in 2000.<br />
2. The failure of state regulators to rein in the predatory lending practices of the last several years.<br />
3. The failure of bank regulators to monitor the health of banks.<br />
4. Basel II and the idea of letting banks use their own models to determine their capital requirements.<br />
5. The failure to adjust capital requirements to account for off-balance sheet exposures.</p>
<p>It was not so much an issue of regulations being explicitly repealed, of regulators failing to keep pace with innovation in financial products.</p>
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		<title>By: DCLawyer</title>
		<link>http://baselinescenario.com/2008/11/08/henry-paulson-bailout-legacy/#comment-903</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 03:51:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Deregulation is the prime suspect&quot;

Sadly, as usual, we&#039;re getting the cause wrong, so how can we ensure we&#039;ll get the fix right?

A commission needs to be set up to thoroughly consider the causes of our current state of affairs.  
Otherwise, we&#039;ll just live for decades in a myth as we did after the Great Depression, where we told ourselves that the crash was somehow caused by the economic growth of the 1920s.  Today, we accept it was a monetary rather than a fiscal event, but it took a long time to figure this out.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Deregulation is the prime suspect&#8221;</p>
<p>Sadly, as usual, we&#8217;re getting the cause wrong, so how can we ensure we&#8217;ll get the fix right?</p>
<p>A commission needs to be set up to thoroughly consider the causes of our current state of affairs.<br />
Otherwise, we&#8217;ll just live for decades in a myth as we did after the Great Depression, where we told ourselves that the crash was somehow caused by the economic growth of the 1920s.  Today, we accept it was a monetary rather than a fiscal event, but it took a long time to figure this out.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 19:08:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[http://www.economist.com/displaystory.cfm?story_id=12415730

A short history of modern finance
Link by link

Oct 16th 2008
From The Economist print edition
The crash has been blamed on cheap money, Asian savings and greedy bankers. For many people, deregulation is the prime suspect.]]></description>
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<p>A short history of modern finance<br />
Link by link</p>
<p>Oct 16th 2008<br />
From The Economist print edition<br />
The crash has been blamed on cheap money, Asian savings and greedy bankers. For many people, deregulation is the prime suspect.</p>
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		<title>By: calmo</title>
		<link>http://baselinescenario.com/2008/11/08/henry-paulson-bailout-legacy/#comment-894</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 18:16:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Is there a record of this behavior in past administrations?:

&lt;i&gt;The best he can do now is delay whatever changes the Obama administration will make.&lt;/i&gt;

Or are we (you)  just adopting the Bush mindset? [just like this!]

How about this somewhat dramatized line with this somewhat epileptic metaphor:

&lt;i&gt;&quot;We have said on this site that stabilizing the financial system was job one, and the patient is stable.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

Have there been financial systems in the past that were good on Friday but gone on Monday?

And this:
&quot;The many years of deregulation that helped bring on the crisis, to be fair, predated Paulsonâ€™s tenure,&quot; To be even fairer didn&#039;t Hank amass his fortune on those &quot;many years of deregulation&quot;...wazinit this bum who just prior to The Sinking wanted even less regulation (hard to imagine, now ...and even harder to go back and dig out the nitty gritty) less ~&quot;the financial center of the world move to London&quot;?

What year here:
&lt;i&gt;&quot;But the insistence that everything was fundamentally sound through the first half of September&quot;...&lt;i&gt; For some of us the flag went up with the construct of TAF in late 07, you?

This looks like I missed my anti-combative meds James and I am mostly just thrashing about to find you.

&lt;i&gt;&quot;While the patient was saved, he is still far from health.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

I am tiring of these metaphors (we are all patients now...some of us need saving from..this very descriptor, you know?) [Desperate humor: the patients are impatient.]

Last irritable thing:
&lt;i&gt;&quot;The economic ideology of the Bush administration was that free markets are always best.&quot; &lt;/i&gt;

In my warped, angry, impatient but legacy-free opinion, to ascribe to anyone an &quot;ideology&quot;, let alone some particular variant (The economic ideology), presupposes some weighty sophistication both on the part of the ascribee and the ascriber. Lets skip right to it: GWB&#039;s sophistication and the barbarian&#039;s is a match. Return to O&#039;Neill and see if ain&#039;t so.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is there a record of this behavior in past administrations?:</p>
<p><i>The best he can do now is delay whatever changes the Obama administration will make.</i></p>
<p>Or are we (you)  just adopting the Bush mindset? [just like this!]</p>
<p>How about this somewhat dramatized line with this somewhat epileptic metaphor:</p>
<p><i>&#8220;We have said on this site that stabilizing the financial system was job one, and the patient is stable.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>Have there been financial systems in the past that were good on Friday but gone on Monday?</p>
<p>And this:<br />
&#8220;The many years of deregulation that helped bring on the crisis, to be fair, predated Paulsonâ€™s tenure,&#8221; To be even fairer didn&#8217;t Hank amass his fortune on those &#8220;many years of deregulation&#8221;&#8230;wazinit this bum who just prior to The Sinking wanted even less regulation (hard to imagine, now &#8230;and even harder to go back and dig out the nitty gritty) less ~&#8221;the financial center of the world move to London&#8221;?</p>
<p>What year here:<br />
<i>&#8220;But the insistence that everything was fundamentally sound through the first half of September&#8221;&#8230;</i><i> For some of us the flag went up with the construct of TAF in late 07, you?</p>
<p>This looks like I missed my anti-combative meds James and I am mostly just thrashing about to find you.</p>
<p></i><i>&#8220;While the patient was saved, he is still far from health.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>I am tiring of these metaphors (we are all patients now&#8230;some of us need saving from..this very descriptor, you know?) [Desperate humor: the patients are impatient.]</p>
<p>Last irritable thing:<br />
<i>&#8220;The economic ideology of the Bush administration was that free markets are always best.&#8221; </i></p>
<p>In my warped, angry, impatient but legacy-free opinion, to ascribe to anyone an &#8220;ideology&#8221;, let alone some particular variant (The economic ideology), presupposes some weighty sophistication both on the part of the ascribee and the ascriber. Lets skip right to it: GWB&#8217;s sophistication and the barbarian&#8217;s is a match. Return to O&#8217;Neill and see if ain&#8217;t so.</p>
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		<title>By: Real Time Economics : Secondary Sources: Paulson, Fed Funds, IMF</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Real Time Economics : Secondary Sources: Paulson, Fed Funds, IMF]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 14:55:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Paulson Legacy: On the Baseline Scenario blog, James Kwak looks at the legacy of the Treasury secretary. &#8220;Looking back over the last two months, Paulson’s record (and that of the rest of the Bush administration) in combating the greatest financial crisis of our lifetimes is poor, though not catastrophic. The one thing that can be said in his favor is that the financial system did not completely collapse and Ben Bernanke’s supposed warning in the dark hours of September 18 that &#8216;we may not have an economy on Monday&#8217; did not come to pass. We have said on this site that stabilizing the financial system was job one, and the patient is stable. But weighed against that success is an array of failures.&#8221; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Barry</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 14:48:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I would add that there&#039;s an excellent chance that Paulson has inked a whole batch of secret ^H^H^H^H^H &#039;undisclosed&#039; contracts committing the federal government to paying out vast sums of money in the future - and I mean vast by $700 billion bailout standards.  Under the sort of terms which a cynical realist would expect when outgoing Bush Republican administration lawyers sat down with financial elites. 

It&#039;d be very Bushian, and the sort of thing that a Wall St CEO wouldn&#039;t be above.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would add that there&#8217;s an excellent chance that Paulson has inked a whole batch of secret ^H^H^H^H^H &#8216;undisclosed&#8217; contracts committing the federal government to paying out vast sums of money in the future &#8211; and I mean vast by $700 billion bailout standards.  Under the sort of terms which a cynical realist would expect when outgoing Bush Republican administration lawyers sat down with financial elites. </p>
<p>It&#8217;d be very Bushian, and the sort of thing that a Wall St CEO wouldn&#8217;t be above.</p>
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		<title>By: DCLawyer</title>
		<link>http://baselinescenario.com/2008/11/08/henry-paulson-bailout-legacy/#comment-853</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 13:59:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[James,

I&#039;d love to hear more about the &quot;many years of deregulation that brought about the crisis.&quot;  So far, no one has adequately fleshed this statement out beyond an Obama sound bite.

More please.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>James,</p>
<p>I&#8217;d love to hear more about the &#8220;many years of deregulation that brought about the crisis.&#8221;  So far, no one has adequately fleshed this statement out beyond an Obama sound bite.</p>
<p>More please.</p>
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